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Assurant Inc

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Assurant, Inc. is a premier global protection company that partners with the world’s leading brands to safeguard and service connected devices, homes, and automobiles. As a Fortune 500 company operating in 21 countries, Assurant leverages data-driven technology solutions to provide exceptional customer experiences.

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Assurant Inc (AIZ) — Q1 2019 Earnings Call Transcript

Apr 4, 20266 speakers5,023 words57 segments

AI Call Summary AI-generated

The 30-second take

Assurant had a strong start to the year, with profits growing across its main businesses, especially in mobile device protection. Management expressed confidence in their long-term plan to keep earnings growing and return a significant amount of cash to shareholders. They are carefully evaluating a past investment to see if it still fits with their expanded operations.

Key numbers mentioned

  • Net operating earnings per share, excluding catastrophes was $2.33.
  • Covered mobile devices now more than 47 million.
  • Renters protected in multi-family housing now 2.1 million across the US.
  • Holding company liquidity totaled $354 million.
  • Capital to be returned to shareholders over three years is $1.35 billion.
  • Placement rate for lender-placed insurance declined 13 basis points year-over-year.

What management is worried about

  • We will monitor the elevated loss experience in the small commercial products.
  • For the balance of the year, we expect...some additional pressure from anticipated declines in our legacy credit business within financial services.
  • Foreign exchange volatility, primarily from unfavorable currency movements in Argentina and Brazil, partially offset growth in the quarter.
  • As we head into Q2, we will have seasonality in connected living, both in the normal summer, where we just have a greater loss experience.

What management is excited about

  • Our leadership positions and innovative offerings should continue to support double-digit earnings growth.
  • We now protect more than 47 million covered mobile devices, up 26% year-over-year.
  • We made additional progress integrating The Warranty Group acquisition, realizing operating synergies as planned.
  • We introduced Pocket Drive, our new technology platform that will expand our offerings beyond service contracts.
  • We have further strengthened our leading lender-placed franchise by renewing three key partnerships in the quarter.

Analyst questions that hit hardest

  1. John Nadel, UBS — Connected Living earnings seasonality: Management responded by stating it was hard to predict quarter-to-quarter growth and declined to provide a specific dollar amount or percentage decline.
  2. John Nadel, UBS — Lifestyle segment economics and margins: Management responded defensively by stating they don't think about the business that way, focusing instead on long-term profitable growth and client relationships rather than segment-level returns.
  3. John Nadel, UBS — Expense ratio reduction from platform migration: Management gave an evasive answer, stating it was a multi-year project with no "threshold moment" for a big impact and that it was hard to predict exactly where the expense margin would go.

The quote that matters

Our results reaffirm our belief that we are well-positioned to sustain our performance long-term.

Alan Colberg — President and Chief Executive Officer

Sentiment vs. last quarter

The tone was more focused on execution and confirming long-term targets set at the recent Investor Day, whereas last quarter's call was marked by a major strategic update. Specific concern shifted from lender-placed declines to monitoring small commercial property losses and foreign exchange volatility.

Original transcript

Operator

Welcome to Assurant's First Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. At this time, all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode, and the floor will be open for your questions following management's prepared remarks. Please follow the operator instructions. It is now my pleasure to turn the floor over to Suzanne Shepherd, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. You may begin.

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Suzanne ShepherdSenior Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you, Christina, and good morning, everyone. We look forward to discussing our first quarter 2019 results with you today. Joining me for Assurant's conference call are Alan Colberg, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Richard Dziadzio, our Chief Financial Officer. Yesterday, after the market close, we issued a news release announcing our results for the first quarter 2019. The release and corresponding financial supplement are available on assurant.com. As noted in both documents, we updated our key financial metrics for the enterprise and our operating segments to align with the company's strategic focus and the financial objectives shared at our recent Investor Day. We believe these metrics will be a better indicator of performance going forward. We'll start today's call with brief remarks from Alan and Richard before moving into a Q&A session. Some of the statements made today may be forward-looking. Forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties, and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated by these statements. Additional information regarding these factors can be found in yesterday's earnings release as well as in our SEC reports. During today's call, we will refer to non-GAAP financial measures, which we believe are important in evaluating the company's performance. For more details on these measures, the most comparable GAAP measures, and a reconciliation of the two, please refer to yesterday's news release and financial supplement. I will now turn the call over to Alan.

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Suzanne. Good morning, everyone. Overall, we are pleased with our results for the first quarter. Performance across our three operating segments was strong, especially mobile and Global Lifestyle. Our results reaffirm our belief that we are well-positioned to sustain our performance long-term. Our leadership positions and innovative offerings should continue to support double-digit earnings growth, with a more diversified and higher-quality mix of business. During the quarter, we continued to execute on our strategy. In Global Housing, we've repositioned the segment for growth. First, by beginning to stabilize and replace, and second, by continuing to drive profitable growth within multi-family housing and our other specialty property offerings. In multi-family housing, we grew revenue 7% in both our affinity and property management partners now protecting 2.1 million renters across the US. Our focus remains on investing in our key capabilities to deliver even more value for our clients and their renters. To that end, we continue to roll out our new point-of-lease tracking capability to seamlessly integrate our products and services, and gradually increase attachment rates. With our vertically integrated capabilities, broad product suite, and emphasis on the customer experience, we've built a leading position in the PMC channel. We continue to expect strong top and bottom line growth going forward. We've also further strengthened our leading lender-placed franchise by renewing three key partnerships in the quarter. Over the past five months, the renewals completed represent nearly one-third of our loans tracked. This bodes well for the future as lender-placed earnings have started to stabilize after years of market declines. Over the next three years, we believe we will generate a 17% to 20% operating ROE, including an average expected cat load. In Global Lifestyle, we are aligned with leading brands to bring innovative products and services to market. In Connected Living, this includes services like our premium tech support, which creates greater value for the end consumer and adds new and important profit pools. We now protect more than 47 million covered mobile devices, up 26% year-over-year. As we highlighted at our Investor Day, our new partnerships with companies like Verizon, Comcast, Charter, KDDI and the renewal and expansion of our T-Mobile relationship to include Metro by T-Mobile demonstrate that our vertically integrated capabilities continue to drive value for our customers and serve as a significant differentiator for Assurant. We made additional progress integrating The Warranty Group acquisition, realizing operating synergies as planned and finding ways to unlock additional value from our stronger, more scalable global automotive business. For example, this quarter, we introduced Pocket Drive, our new technology platform that will expand our offerings beyond service contracts. We expect to launch pilot testing in the second quarter with select dealer partners. We are pleased by the continued strong revenue growth and innovation in this business for the 48 million vehicles we protect worldwide. This also supports our long-term view that we can continue to grow Global Lifestyle's net operating income at least 10% annually on average over the next three years. Turning to Global Preneed, we produced solid, consistent earnings and cash flows in the quarter, supported by our growth in pre-funded funeral policies and favorable mortality trends. Base sales were also strong with a 7% year-over-year increase from new distribution partners within our Final Need product. Over the next three years, we believe we can achieve a sustainable operating ROE of 13% in Global Preneed. In addition to setting these long-term segment targets at our Investor Day, we also provided several key enterprise financial objectives. Over the course of 2020 and 2021, we expect to grow earnings per share on average by 12%, with double-digit expansion in net operating income. In addition, starting in 2019, we intend to return $1.35 billion to shareholders over the next three years in the form of share repurchases and common stock dividends, illustrating the confidence we have in our future cash flows. We recognize that executing against our plans for 2019 will be an important step in delivering on these long-term targets. For this year, we continue to expect to grow operating earnings per share, excluding catastrophe losses, by 6% to 10% from the $8.65 we reported in 2018. This will be driven by double-digit earnings growth and disciplined capital deployment. Looking at results for the first quarter 2019, we reported net operating earnings per share, excluding catastrophes of $2.33, an increase of 9% from $2.14 in the prior year period. This was driven by earnings growth, partially offset by shares issued last year related to our TWG acquisition. Net operating income, also excluding catastrophes, for the quarter was up 30% to $149 million due to TWG contributions and organic business growth. At the end of March, holding company liquidity totaled $354 million, after returning $51 million in share repurchases and $37 million in common stock dividends. Overall, we're pleased with our performance in the first quarter. We're confident in our ability to continue to expand earnings and cash flow. This will allow us to continue to invest in our business and sustain our track record of returning excess capital to shareholders over the long term. I'll now turn the call over to Richard to review segment results and our 2019 outlook in greater detail.

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Richard DziadzioChief Financial Officer

Thank you, Alan, and good morning, everyone. Let's begin with Global Housing. Net operating income for the quarter totaled $73 million, an increase of $2 million from the first quarter of 2018. Excluding mortgage solutions in the prior year period, earnings declined as growth in multi-family housing was offset by higher catastrophe costs and decreased profitability in our specialty property offerings. Lower earnings in our specialty property offerings were mainly the result of higher non-cat loss experience in our small commercial property products. For the segment, reportable catastrophes in the quarter totaled $9 million, level with last year. Global Housing revenue was down, reflecting the sale of mortgage solutions. Excluding mortgage solutions, revenue was up 5% due to growth in small commercial products, multi-family housing, and our sharing economy offerings. Lender-placed revenue decreased due to lower placement rates, partially offset by higher premium rates. During the quarter, the placement rate declined 13 basis points year-over-year and only two basis points from year-end 2018, in line with our expectations. As noted earlier, we have revised our financial supplement disclosure following Investor Day. Specifically for housing, we've aligned our key financial metrics to report the loss, expense, and combined ratios for the entire segment. For the first quarter, the combined ratio for Global Housing was unchanged from the prior year period at 86.7%. This falls within our longer-term range of 86% to 90%, including an average expected capital. For full year 2019, we continue to expect Global Housing to realize modest earnings growth, excluding cat losses. This will be driven by continued expansion of our specialty offerings, most notably, multi-family housing. As we look to the second quarter, we expect higher non-cat loss ratios reflecting typical weather patterns and we will monitor the elevated loss experience in the small commercial products. Lender-placed earnings will reflect the additional reinsurance coverage we secured earlier this year, but underlying profitability is expected to remain stable. We also continue the process of migrating clients to our new operating platform, as this will lower expenses longer-term and, more importantly, further enhance the customer experience. Moving to Global Lifestyle. The segment reported earnings of $101 million for the first quarter, a $45 million increase year-over-year. This reflects $30 million after-tax from TWG, including $10 million of realized synergies and $2.8 million of intangible amortization. We also benefited from strong organic growth in the business, led by Connected Living, which grew earnings by 64% in the quarter. This was mainly due to mobile subscriber growth from programs launched over the past two years. In addition, we realized higher trading volumes from carrier promotions and strong margins in repair and logistics. Segment earnings were also supported by more favorable Global Automotive results for legacy Assurant, compared to the prior period, which was marked by some higher one-time expenses. Looking at total revenue for this segment, net earned premiums and fees were up $763 million, mainly from the $651 million TWG contribution. Excluding TWG, revenue was up $112 million or 12%. Organic revenue growth was driven primarily by mobile programs launched during the past two years, mainly in Asia-Pacific and North America. This growth was across various distribution channels and from multiple profit pools, including device protection, premium tech support, as well as repair and logistics. Auto revenue, excluding TWG, was up 20%, benefiting from strong prior period sales in our TPA distribution. Foreign exchange volatility, primarily from unfavorable currency movements in Argentina and Brazil, partially offset growth in the quarter. Looking at the full year, we continue to expect strong earnings growth due to the full year TWG contributions, including $25 million to $30 million of incremental expense synergies, mainly in Global Automotive. In addition, mobile should remain a significant contributor through gaining growth from new and existing programs. It's important to note that the first quarter was particularly strong compared to last year, reflecting the timing of new phone introductions and carrier promotions. For the balance of the year, we expect typical mobile seasonality and some additional pressure from anticipated declines in our legacy credit business within financial services; investments to enhance and strengthen our capabilities, particularly in mobile and auto, will also be important as we look to stay on the forefront of innovation for the future. Now let's move to Global Preneed. The segment reported $12 million of net operating income, a $2 million year-over-year increase. Higher investment income and lower mortality compared to the prior year period were the key drivers. Revenue in Preneed was up 6%, mainly driven by growth in the US, including sales of our Final Need product. Global Preneed's outlook for the year remains unchanged with earnings roughly flat with 2018. We will continue to manage expenses closely, as we implement the segment's long-term growth strategy, drive more sales to our home distribution, work with new partners, and expand our portfolio of products. At Corporate, the net operating loss was $19 million, relatively flat with the prior year period. For full year 2019, we expect the net operating loss to be similar to 2018, creating additional leverage with our expense structure as we grow. Turning to capital, we ended March with $354 million of holding company liquidity or about $129 million above our current minimum target level of $225 million. Dividends in the quarter from our operating segments totaled $78 million, lower than segment earnings as we typically wait till later in the year for greater visibility. In addition to our quarterly corporate and interest expenses, the outflows included $51 million in share repurchases, $42 million in common and preferred dividends, and $8 million of investments, including strengthening our repair and logistic capabilities in Canada. In the second quarter through May 3rd, we purchased an additional 224,000 shares for $21 million. For full year 2019, we expect dividends from our operating segments to approximate segment operating earnings. These dividends should provide flexibility to invest in our businesses and return capital to shareholders, subject to market conditions. While our 2019 capital deployment plans take into account our potential purchase of Ike Asistencia in light of our investment in TWG, we are evaluating how Ike fits into our expanded Latin American operations. We are exploring strategic options for Ike and have delayed the put call option until February of 2020 to complete our review. In summary, we're very pleased with our strong performance in the first quarter. We remain focused on delivering on our commitments for the full year. And with that, operator, please open the call for questions.

Operator

The floor is now open for questions. Please follow the operator instructions. Thank you. Our first question is coming from John Nadel from UBS.

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Hey, good morning, John.

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John NadelAnalyst

Good morning. I have a couple of questions, and then I'll get back in the queue. One that I'm curious about is the number of renters policies that's growing really solid double-digit year-over-year. I think the growth rate this quarter was 13%, 13.5%, but your actual net earned premium is growing high-single. Is there just a lag effect there that I'm missing, or is there some pricing competition going on?

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Richard DziadzioChief Financial Officer

Hey, John, good morning. It's Richard. I think there are probably two parts to it. First of all, we're expanding in the property management channel, and we have really good growth there. As Alan mentioned in his remarks, we're investing in that channel to stay at the forefront of innovation and allow renters to come in and onboard more quickly. So there is some expense there. I think there's a two-fold reason: one, we're being very competitive in the market, but also there is a lag effect between when we bring on new policies and when the premium flows through. But I would say there are no significant changes in margins that we've seen.

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John NadelAnalyst

Okay, that's helpful. And then just one housekeeping item. Is that your outlook for 2019? I'm just curious; we've seen that property reinsurance costs, particularly in the State of Florida, are up pretty significantly. I just wonder whether you already knew that had that baked into your outlook or if that was more of an estimate, and is there any impact we should expect as it relates to your outlook for reinsurance costs impacting your overall outlook for '19?

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Hi, John. Yeah, thanks for the question. Actually, we had some visibility into the cat cost in Florida, specifically the cost of the Hurricane Florida Cat Fund. So we factored a large part of that into our outlook. As we come into the year, it might be a tiny bit higher, but nothing that would impact our outlook whatsoever.

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Richard DziadzioChief Financial Officer

John, the other thing that we talked about at Investor Day is that we've really expanded the multi-year component of our reinsurance, which stabilizes costs for us over time.

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John NadelAnalyst

Got you, that's helpful. Thank you. And then the last one I'm just thinking about is how did - overall, how did 1Q earnings compare with your own internal expectations? It sounds to me like you're signaling that, in particular, connected living had a pretty solid, maybe favorable quarter. How should we think about - you talked about seasonality; you talked about a little bit higher loss ratios as we move from 1Q into 2Q for that particular business, how can we size maybe in a dollar amount or a range how we should think about that earnings for connected living from 1Q to 2Q?

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Certainly, if we look at the quarter, we're pleased with the results, and mobile was stronger than we had expected, really driven by trade-in volumes. The late introduction in Q4 of some smartphones pushed volume into Q1 more than we had anticipated. So as we head into Q2, we will have seasonality in connected living, both in the normal summer, where we just have a greater loss experience and then trade-in volumes usually slow down in Q2 and Q3 as people anticipate the next smartphone introductions.

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John NadelAnalyst

How to - is there any chance we can talk about how to think about that in terms of dollar amount of earnings, typical seasonality, as is it like a 5% quarter-over-quarter decline, and...

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

It's hard for us to predict that, but I would say as we remain very confident in our long-term outlook that we've given for Lifestyle, which is that 10% plus average annual growth that we have a lot of confidence in quarter-to-quarter growth, but it's harder to predict.

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John NadelAnalyst

Got you. Okay, thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from Christopher Campbell from KBW. Your line is open.

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Hey, good morning.

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Christopher CampbellAnalyst

Hi, good morning. Congrats on the quarter.

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Richard DziadzioChief Financial Officer

Thank you.

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Christopher CampbellAnalyst

First question is just on the higher-than-expected losses in housing. I guess how much of the year-over-year increase was due to the higher commercial losses?

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Richard DziadzioChief Financial Officer

It was due to - I'm sorry.

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Christopher CampbellAnalyst

The higher attritional, like specialty property losses.

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Richard DziadzioChief Financial Officer

Yeah, I mean, there was a part of that increase. The loss ratio year-over-year, as we have pointed out, is within the specialty property component of housing, which was about $120 million to $500 million. The specialty commercial property part is about 20% to 25%, and that was a small component, and we didn't have great experience leading to an increase in severity in that book of business, and as we've said, we are monitoring it as we go forward.

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Christopher CampbellAnalyst

Got it. And is that more attritional or was it just large losses this quarter?

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Really, it was an increase in severity I would say in the book. There weren’t any huge single events, but an increase in severity overall.

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Christopher CampbellAnalyst

Okay. And then question on repurchases. Is $50 million a good quarterly run rate to think about going forward?

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

I think the way to think about that question is, we’ve said that we expect over the next three years to return $1.35 billion to shareholders via common stock, dividends, and repurchases. That translates into roughly $300 million a year over the three years in repurchases. We have to remember, we buy via 10b5-1 and so we can't go in and out of the market that easily.

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Christopher CampbellAnalyst

Okay, thanks. And then just in mobile, any new clients or relationship extensions that you guys are looking at? I mean, how does the sales pipeline look relative to last year?

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

I think we're very pleased with our progress in mobile. You heard in my prepared remarks that I raved about these four or five major new clients that we've started relationships with in the last 18 to 24 months. As I mentioned at Investor Day, we will be ramping up later this year with Metro by T-Mobile, which has the potential for about 3 million subscribers to be added over time to our portfolio. So we're focused on executing that, but the pipeline remains strong. Our innovative offerings have really differentiated us and given us a lot of traction in the market.

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Christopher CampbellAnalyst

Okay, great. And just, I know you guys have talked about 5G being like a possible tailwind further out. I guess just any additional clarity that you have on the development of 5G and then the potential impact on your business?

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

In 5G, what we've talked about is that ultimately, when that gains real consumer traction, there will be a handset replacement cycle that will occur. I think it's still quite a ways in the future if you look at the timing of the rollout of 5G, but that is a long-term tailwind that will help the business at some point.

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Christopher CampbellAnalyst

Okay, great. Well, thanks for all the answers. Best of luck in the second quarter.

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Chris.

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Richard DziadzioChief Financial Officer

Thanks, Chris.

Operator

Our last question comes from John Nadel from UBS. Your line is open.

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Hey, John.

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John NadelAnalyst

Hey, good morning. It seems everybody's tied up on AIG this morning. Sorry, guys, but I care.

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

We appreciate that. Thank you, John.

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John NadelAnalyst

If we - I am curious about your commentary, and I appreciate your commentary around the delay of the put call option on Ike into early 2020. I guess - I'm more curious about how - you talked about evaluating how that business fits given the acquisition of TWG and the integration you've got going on. Can you expand on those thoughts a little bit? I know you don't want to get ahead of things here, but I'm just curious what that means?

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. So John, let me provide a little context. When we originally signed the agreement, which was in late 2013, it was all about creating more scale for our business in Latin America, which is a priority in key markets like Mexico. With The Warranty Group acquisition, we dramatically added more scale in key markets like Mexico, Argentina, and Brazil. Given that, it causes us to step back and say how do we think about this business. Now, it's important to note that over the five years we've been involved, the business has performed well, slightly ahead of the expectations we had when we made the original investment. But we have scale now in Latin America, so it's a good chance for us to step back and think about what's best for our shareholders.

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John NadelAnalyst

Got it, understood, okay. And then Alan, one of the critics that I hear from time to time based on the disclosures that we get from you guys, I think it's not so easy to counter this critique, is an overarching belief that your position, and I'm talking about Lifestyle here, suffers from lower economics relative to maybe a service provider like Verizon or another, and that the growth as you grow, your incremental margin may actually be lower. Is that a fair critique, or is there some way that you can provide some data that counters that? I think that's one thing that weighs a little bit; your top line growth rate looks terrific, right? I mean, in particular, these last couple of quarters. I'm just trying to see if there's a way to counter that overarching belief or perception.

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

I don't think that's at all the way we think about the business. We're aligned with the market leaders. We are expanding our whole and providing services to them. We've talked about the addition of major new services in the last 18 months, like premium tech support. If you look at the long-term, we have grown earnings in that business, 10% plus over the last six years with an outlook that we're going to continue to be able to do that. So it's a very good business where we are critically important to our partners and delivering the consumer experiences they want. We don't tend to think about the margin of each service, because some of them are fee income, some are not. But we look at it and can we continue to grow profitably and deepen our relationships with our key clients, which we've done very well.

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John NadelAnalyst

And if we think about Lifestyle discreetly, can you remind us what your return target is for that particular segment?

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

We don't have one, because what we've said matters in Lifestyle. It's not a traditional insurance business. So thinking about returns is not the way to think about it. What we have said is we can grow earnings, and we've done it for six plus years, and we can continue to do it. Now, we've said overall for the enterprise, we will be disciplined in that growth with overall enterprise ROE gradually rising over the next three years. But for Lifestyle, specifically, it's about profitable earnings growth.

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John NadelAnalyst

Got you. The last one I have for you is you talked about this some time ago. I don't remember if at Investor Day, there was any real commentary around this, but I'm thinking about Global Auto and the potential that there may be some opportunity to drive down repair costs given your better size and scale and maybe some ability to renegotiate some contracts with repair facilities or dealerships. I'm just wondering if there's any update on that front. I know it's not something that - I know you did not build in anything from that essential stream into your synergies. I'm just wondering if you can give us an update on any progress.

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

John, appreciate the question. Let me maybe start a little more broadly on the TWG synergies, and then I'll come to that specifically. If you recall, when we did the deal, we announced that we had a hard cost synergy target of $60 million run rate pre-tax by the end of 2019. We are on track and we expect we will deliver that by the end of this year. With that said, we've really turned a lot of our focus to other sources of synergy ranging from revenue synergies. One of the things we recently rolled out in Japan is the partnership with KDDI around our connected home, leveraging our relationship with the legacy Warranty Group capabilities to deliver in the home in Japan. That's an example of a revenue synergy that we're going hard after. On the claims costs, we now have an extraordinarily strong position in the market, leveraging our knowledge of the cards with the payers. We're looking to how we leverage that now. A lot of that benefit will flow to our clients, but that strengthens our relationships with those clients, and we'll get some benefits. We're early days on those; it takes time to implement that, but it's another significant source of synergy that is not reflected when we talk about the expectations for the TWG deal.

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John NadelAnalyst

Got it. And since you still have plenty of time, I may as well throw one more in. If I think about the migration on the lender-place side, the migration to a single operating platform, I know you haven't really quantified what spend you think can be generated from that over time. I'm wondering if you could give us the sense - it doesn't sound like it's that big of a contributor in 2019. I'm wondering, 2020 and beyond, if you think that could be a material impact to the earnings for Global Housing?

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Richard DziadzioChief Financial Officer

Yeah, John. Hi, it's Rich. I will take that one. We are starting to onboard clients. We are getting some good reactions from the clients. First and foremost, our investment in the program is to position us for a great customer experience going forward, and the investment we've made is being well received. So I think that’s probably the biggest point on that. It's a multi-year project, and I think as we look forward, I don’t think there will be a threshold moment where in 2020, we would see a big impact of expenses. But it would be over time and over the next years. On the other hand, I think as you look at the overall expense ratio for the housing area, we are really managing expenses tightly in the housing area, but overall as a company as you've seen in our overall corporate loss and stability there.

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

John, the important thing on lender-placed, for everyone to remember, is we've now said that we've got that business more stable with significant upside if we get into an account audit downside. Specifically, on our single-source platform for 2019, it's a modest amount. It's really more about as Richard said, the longer term and the consumer experience.

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John NadelAnalyst

And that expense ratio for that segment, should we see that coming down over the next couple of years? And is this maybe part of that driver?

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

I mean, it's hard to predict now where the expense margin is going to go. When we look at the overall expense ratio in the first quarter, also taking into account the variety of businesses within it, whether it would be lender-placed, multi-family, whatever, we have brought it down, managing it well. I expect it to go down in the future as we get through the single-source platform, but it's hard today to predict what would happen in 2020, exactly.

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John NadelAnalyst

Okay. Maybe it's just the redefinition or redefining the segment loss ratio, expense ratio, combined ratio, but I thought you guys previously were talking about two to four points over time of expense ratio reduction. Is that no longer the case, or has it just been muted or hidden by the aggregation of that expense ratio for the total segment?

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Richard DziadzioChief Financial Officer

I think, John, what I would say is we still feel very good about the long-term impact of that, and we've reaffirmed that 86% to 90% combined ratio over time for the segment.

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John NadelAnalyst

Okay, that's helpful. Thank you so much.

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Alan ColbergPresident and Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, John. All right, well, thanks everyone for participating in today's call. We're pleased with our first quarter performance and believe we're off to a strong start for the year. We look forward to updating you on our progress on our second quarter earnings call in August. In the meantime, please reach out to Suzanne Shepherd or Sean Moshier with any follow-up questions. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today's teleconference. Please disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.

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