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F5 powers applications from development through their entire lifecycle, across any multi-cloud environment, so our customers—enterprise businesses, service providers, governments, and consumer brands—can deliver differentiated, high-performing, and secure digital experiences.

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F5 Inc (FFIV) — Q2 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Apr 30, 202615 speakers8,773 words54 segments

AI Call Summary AI-generated

The 30-second take

F5 had a very strong quarter, with revenue up 11% and product sales up 22%, and management raised its full-year outlook because demand stayed strong across hardware, software, security, and AI-related use cases. The company said customers are modernizing their networks, adding more security, and starting to use AI in production, which is helping F5 win more business and take share.

Key numbers mentioned

  • Revenue: $812 million, up 11% year over year
  • Product revenue: $411 million, up 22% year over year
  • Systems revenue: $226 million, up 26% year over year
  • Software revenue: $184 million, up 17% year over year
  • Free cash flow: $348 million, a record
  • FY 2026 revenue growth outlook: 7% to 8%, up from 5% to 6%

What management is worried about

  • Memory and SSD costs are rising, and management said gross margin will step down sequentially from Q3 into Q4.
  • Management said memory prices are expected to remain elevated for at least the better part of fiscal 2027.
  • The company said the software growth rate this year is being held back by the timing of the renewal cycle.
  • Management noted that some of the strong services growth from prior periods can lag when customers refresh hardware.
  • Management said visibility gets weaker farther out, especially when looking several quarters ahead on supply and build plans.

What management is excited about

  • Management said hybrid multicloud is becoming a strategic architecture and is driving demand across the business.
  • Management said AI inference is moving into production and is creating new opportunities in data delivery, runtime security, and load balancing.
  • Management highlighted strong international demand, especially in EMEA, tied to digital sovereignty and defense spending.
  • Management said it is winning share by displacing competitors and by selling a unified platform instead of point products.
  • Management pointed to new product launches like AI-powered WAF, Agentic Bot Defense, AI Remediate, and F5 Insight for ADSP.

Analyst questions that hit hardest

  1. Timothy Long, BarclaysWhy software growth was not raised more and how AI revenue should be measured — Management gave a cautious answer, saying not to overreact to one quarter and then quantified AI sales only as a direct, conservative subset of the business.
  2. Tal Liani, Bank of AmericaWhy growth is showing up more outside the U.S. than in the U.S., and why software is lagging systems — Management pushed back on the regional framing and said the secular trends are global, while also explaining that software is mostly a renewal business with a slower year before a stronger next year.
  3. George Notter, Wolfe ResearchWhether pricing should be raised more aggressively and whether share gains are real — Management answered at length about annual pricing reviews, memory cost pass-throughs, and competitive takeout rates, signaling both caution and confidence.

The quote that matters

The era of checkbox security is over.

Francois Locoh-Donou — Chairman, President and CEO

Sentiment vs. last quarter

The tone was noticeably more upbeat and confident than last quarter, with less focus on any one-off issue and more focus on durable growth drivers. Management sounded especially bullish on AI, hybrid multicloud, and security demand, and it raised guidance again with stronger conviction about the second half and next year.

Original transcript

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the F5, Inc. Second Quarter Fiscal 2026 Financial Results Conference Call. Operator provided instructions. Also, today's conference is being recorded. If anyone has any objections, please disconnect at this time. I'll now turn the call over to Ms. Suzanne DuLong. Ma'am, you may begin.

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Suzanne DuLongVice President, Investor Relations

Hello, and welcome. I'm Suzanne DuLong, F5's Vice President of Investor Relations. We are here to discuss our second quarter fiscal year 2026 financial results. Francois Locoh-Donou, F5's Chairman, President and CEO, and Cooper Werner, F5's Executive Vice President and CFO, will be making prepared remarks on today's call. Other members of the F5 executive team are also here to answer questions during the Q&A session. Today's press release is available on our website at f5.com, where an archived version of today's audio will be available through July 27, 2026. We will post a slide deck accompanying today's webcast to our IR site following this call. To access the replay of today's webcast by phone, dial (800) 770-2030 or (609) 800-9909 and use meeting ID 6076834. The telephonic replay will be available through midnight Pacific Time, April 29, 2026. For additional information or follow-up questions, please reach out to me directly at s.dulong@f5.com. Our discussion today will contain forward-looking statements, which include words such as believe, anticipate, expect and target. These forward-looking statements involve uncertainties and risks that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by these statements. We have summarized factors that may affect our results in the press release announcing our financial results and in detail in our SEC filings. In addition, we will reference non-GAAP metrics during today's discussion. Please see our full GAAP to non-GAAP reconciliation in today's press release and in the appendix of our earnings slide deck. Please note that F5 has no duty to update any information presented in this call. Before I pass the call to Francois, I am pleased to announce that F5 will be hosting an Analyst and Investor event in New York on Thursday, May 28, 2026. Details about the event will be provided in a press release soon. I'll now turn the call over to Francois.

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Francois Locoh-DonouChairman, President and CEO

Thank you, Suzanne, and hello, everyone. Our team delivered another robust quarter with 11% revenue growth. Product revenue grew 22%, marking our seventh consecutive quarter of double-digit product growth. This includes strong 26% systems revenue growth and 17% software revenue growth. Hybrid multicloud has become a strategic architecture, and it is increasing demand across F5's core markets. Customers are rapidly scaling their digital infrastructures to improve resiliency, meet data sovereignty requirements and get ready for AI. Our strong Q2 performance reflects those dynamics and F5's alignment with where customers are headed. We captured robust international demand for digital sovereignty initiatives. We also converted hybrid multicloud adoption into meaningful systems and software growth. We capitalized on heightened demand for best-in-class security solutions, and we built on AI momentum with another standout quarter for AI wins. As a result of our strong growth and our proven operating model, we delivered 14% non-GAAP earnings growth and a record $348 million in free cash flow. The powerful combination of secular and cyclical demand trends is providing strong Q3 visibility and a growing pipeline. As a result, we are raising our fiscal year 2026 outlook to reflect revenue growth of 7% to 8%, up from 5% to 6% previously. Cooper will elaborate on our outlook in his remarks. Our outlook for stronger growth is reinforced by what we are seeing in the market. We see three forces significantly reshaping how our customers operate, hybrid multicloud adoption, threat landscape expansion and AI inference inflection. First, hybrid multicloud adoption. Workloads now span on-premises, private cloud and multiple public clouds. Our research shows more than 90% of enterprises run hybrid multicloud today across an average of 19 locations. Organizations need flexibility, resiliency and digital sovereignty in every environment, and they are investing to support these demands. Second, threat landscape expansion. As AI models become more capable, attackers are using them to launch attacks against production applications at higher volumes and with greater variation than traditional defenses were designed for. Our customers see this and they are responding. They are deploying more application security and prioritizing best-in-class defenses. The era of checkbox security is over. AI applications require best-in-class security to match both the volume and the sophistication of AI-driven attacks. Third, the AI inference inflection. Organizations are connecting their applications and APIs to AI models and inference calls are becoming a regular part of how applications run. Our research shows 78% of enterprises run inference themselves using more than seven models on average. Organizations are standardizing on a new architecture with models distributed across the data center, the cloud and the edge. And the next shift is already underway. AI agents are moving into production and enterprises are adapting their applications for agent interaction. This is driving more compute, more data delivery and more security to protect inference. These three market forces are driving demand across our business. Because of accelerating hybrid multicloud adoption, we are taking an already strong refresh cycle and leveraging it into significant opportunities for expansion, competitive displacement and platform consolidation. I will double-click on each of these, spotlighting customer examples from the quarter. With this refresh, we are seeing a Refresh plus dynamic that is different from prior cycles. Customers are deploying higher performance, higher capacity F5 systems as they upgrade their data centers to support modern applications, digital resilience and sovereignty and AI. And as customers refresh, we are capitalizing on that moment to attach new use cases, expanding our footprint and growing overall wallet share. For example, this quarter, a large healthcare services organization started with a life cycle refresh across hundreds of legacy systems. As the project progressed, they expanded the scope to support an AI-driven consumer engagement platform. F5 became the control point for secure, low-latency traffic and data movement across applications, storage and their GPU server environment. That gave the customer a more resilient foundation for both sensitive internal workloads and new AI interactions at scale. Our deliberate investment in hybrid multicloud solutions is translating into market share gains. We are winning customers from competitors who did not build the same breadth and depth of capabilities across on-premises, software and SaaS. In Q2, we displaced a long-standing incumbent at a Fortune 100 energy company whose environment had hit scalability limits. The customer needed a platform that could scale into cloud while maintaining strong on-premises performance. Their incumbent provider was unable to serve workloads in hybrid multicloud environments. F5 modernized traffic management and simplified operations, improving reliability and creating a clean path for long-term cloud adoption. Hybrid multicloud customers require stronger performance and security with fewer tools and simpler operations. We are replacing point products with a unified approach that improves performance and security and is easier to operate at scale. For example, during Q2, an energy and utilities provider, an existing BIG-IP customer needed to secure APIs with better visibility and automation across their data center, cloud and edge environments. They selected F5 Distributed Cloud Services to simplify their approach and standardize API protection across their full footprint with simpler management. Moving on to threat landscape expansion. The pace and scope with which the threat landscape is expanding is driving demand for best-in-class application and API security, both on-premises and across cloud environments. For example, this quarter, a software and managed service provider needed to standardize application and API security across a rapidly expanding hybrid multicloud estate built through acquisitions. They lacked a consistent way to enforce front-door and API protections across their multiple public cloud environments and on-premises. With F5, they deployed a single policy and management layer with security enforced locally in every environment, supporting strict privacy, audit and healthcare requirements. F5 enabled faster regional expansion with stronger security and improved data sovereignty alignment. Finally, the AI inference inflection is driving demand for F5. We are seeing this indirectly through hybrid multicloud adoption and the requirements that come with it. We are also seeing it directly through our three primary AI use cases. With our industry-leading traffic management, we are winning new AI insertion points, including AI data delivery and AI factory load balancing. And we are capturing AI runtime security wins, protecting AI applications, APIs and models from emerging threats such as model abuse, data leakage and prompt injection. In an AI data delivery win, a global payments company needed a more resilient way to move rapidly growing AI data between storage and compute as they scale the training and retrieval workloads. F5 improved performance and resiliency while displacing both an in-house solution and a competitor, positioning us at the center of the customers' AI infrastructure strategy. In an AI runtime security win, an industrial automation firm needed a scalable way to assess risk and govern a growing number of AI applications and models. They chose F5 based on the depth of our red teaming insights and strong integration with their existing security stack. In an AI factory load balancing win, a major manufacturer an existing F5 customer needed to support operations and established a digital twin of their manufacturing environment for simulation and optimization. They deployed BIG-IP as the production traffic layer across their GPU server environment, improving availability and offloading encryption. Taken together, these wins underscore two things. The forces reshaping our customers' environments are real and F5 is well positioned to capture them. Staying ahead of the pace of change requires relentless innovation. In Q2, we brought multiple new capabilities to market, strengthening our leadership in application delivery and security for the AI era and driving greater value for customers. We introduced AI-powered capabilities in Distributed Cloud WAF, replacing manual policy tuning with automated outcome-based threat blocking. Our F5 training model helps customers stay ahead of increasingly sophisticated AI-driven attacks that are growing in both speed and complexity. We launched Agentic Bot Defense, extending our industry-leading Bot Defense to autonomous AI agents, a new and fast-growing category of traffic. The result is that customers can confidently adopt Agentic AI while ensuring only verified trusted agents reach their applications. We released F5 AI Remediate, which closes the loop between our AI Red Team and AI Guardrails products. It collapses the path from vulnerability discovery to runtime protection from days or weeks into minutes. And finally, we launched F5 Insight for ADSP, providing deeper visibility across application estates. The result is that customers can identify and resolve issues faster with less guesswork. We are innovating so customers can run faster, stay protected and simplify their hybrid multicloud and AI environment. And we are accelerating that innovation by rapidly integrating AI into our solutions to create practical capabilities customers can deploy quickly. That innovation engine is also sharpening our view of what's next. As we look ahead, we have conviction in the power and durability of hybrid multicloud, the expanding threat landscape and inflecting AI inference as demand drivers for F5. We look forward to digging deeper into these drivers and our expectations for how they will shape F5's longer-term growth outlook at our May Analyst and Investor event. Now I will turn the call over to Cooper, who will walk through our Q2 results and our outlook. Cooper?

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Cooper WernerExecutive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Francois, and hello, everyone. I will review our Q2 results before I provide our guidance for Q3 and update our outlook for FY '26. We delivered a strong Q2, growing revenue 11% to $812 million with a mix of 51% product revenue and 49% services revenue. Product revenue totaled $411 million, increasing 22% year-over-year, while services revenue of $401 million grew 2% year-over-year. Systems revenue totaled $226 million, up 26% over Q2 FY '25. Our software revenue of $184 million grew 17% year-over-year. Subscription-based software revenue totaled $165 million, up 20% year-on-year, representing 90% of our Q2 software revenue. Perpetual license software totaled $19 million, down 4% year-over-year. Revenue from recurring sources contributed 70% of our Q2 revenue. Our recurring revenue consists of our subscription-based revenue and the maintenance portion of our services revenue. Shifting to revenue distribution by region. Revenue from the Americas grew 3% year-over-year, representing 50% of total revenue. Both our EMEA and APAC regions delivered very strong quarters. EMEA grew 22%, representing 32% of revenue. APAC grew 19%, representing 18% of revenue. Looking at our major verticals, enterprise customers contributed 66% of Q2's product bookings. Government customers represented a strong 24% of product bookings, including 8% from U.S. Federal. Finally, service providers contributed 9% of Q2 product bookings. Our continued financial discipline contributed to our strong Q2 operating results. GAAP gross margin was 81.4%. Non-GAAP gross margin was 83.7%. Our GAAP operating expenses were $482 million. Our non-GAAP operating expenses were $406 million. Our GAAP operating margin was 22.1%. Our non-GAAP operating margin was 33.8%. Our GAAP effective tax rate for the quarter was 21.9%. Our non-GAAP effective tax rate was 21.5%. Our GAAP net income for the quarter was $148 million or $2.58 per share. Our non-GAAP net income was $223 million or $3.90 per share, reflecting 14% EPS growth from the year ago period. I will now turn to cash flow and balance sheet metrics. We generated $366 million in cash flow from operations in Q2 and free cash flow of $348 million, both records, highlighting the strength of our operating model. CapEx was $18 million. DSO for the quarter was 47 days. Cash and investments totaled $1.46 billion at quarter end. Deferred revenue was $2.12 billion, up 10% from the year ago period. In Q2, we repurchased $100 million worth of F5 shares at an average price of $269 per share. We had $522 million remaining on our authorized share repurchase program as of the end of the quarter. Finally, we ended the quarter with approximately 6,500 employees. I will now speak to our outlook and guidance, beginning with Q3, followed by our full year view. We expect the market trends we've outlined, hybrid multicloud adoption, threat landscape expansion and AI inference inflection to drive strong demand for our products and services in the second half of FY '26. We expect Q3 revenue in a range of $820 million to $840 million, reflecting approximately 6.5% growth at the midpoint. We expect non-GAAP gross margin in the range of 82.5% to 83.5%. We estimate Q3 non-GAAP operating expenses of $406 million to $418 million. We expect Q3 share-based compensation expense of approximately $68 million to $70 million. We anticipate Q3 non-GAAP EPS in the range of $3.91 to $4.03 per share. Turning to our fiscal year 2026 outlook. With continued strong close rates in Q2 and strong pipeline creation into the second half, we are raising our FY '26 outlook. We now expect FY '26 revenue growth of 7% to 8%, up from our prior outlook of 5% to 6%. We continue to expect mid-single-digit software revenue growth, double-digit systems revenue growth and low single-digit services revenue growth for the year. Our gross and operating margin outlook for FY '26 is unchanged. We expect FY '26 non-GAAP gross margin in a range of 82.5% to 83.5%. On a modeling note, we expect higher component costs, primarily related to memory will cause gross margin to step down sequentially from Q3 into Q4. We expect non-GAAP operating margin in a range of 34% to 35%. We now expect our FY '26 non-GAAP effective tax rate will be in the range of 20% to 21%. Reflecting the strength of our second quarter and our increased revenue outlook, we now expect FY '26 non-GAAP EPS in a range of $16.25 to $16.55, up from the prior range of $15.65 to $16.05. Finally, we expect our full year share repurchase to be at least 50% of our free cash flow. I will now pass the call back to Francois.

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Francois Locoh-DonouChairman, President and CEO

Thank you, Cooper. Looking ahead, our strengths are well matched to the secular shifts transforming IT infrastructure, hybrid multicloud adoption, threat landscape expansion and AI inference inflection. We expect these trends to support continued growth for F5 in fiscal 2026 and beyond. F5 is built for hybrid multicloud and the AI era. We deliver and secure every app and API anywhere with one unified platform across on-premises, multiple public clouds and the edge. Our application delivery and security platform reduces complexity. Customers get centralized security, high-performance delivery and consistent policy without stitching together point products. And we provide a control point for traffic, APIs and data flows as applications and AI become more distributed. Operator, please open the call to questions.

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Operator provided instructions. We'll take our first question from Tim Long at Barclays.

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Timothy LongAnalyst, Barclays

Yes, one question and one clarification. On the software side, it looks like it was a pretty good quarter and you're keeping the mid-single-digit for the year. So I know sometimes these are on 3-year cycles given the term. So maybe just touch a little bit on why not a little bit more of a raise there after a pretty solid growth quarter. And are you still looking at potential acceleration on that number into next year? And then after that, I'll come back with a follow-up.

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Cooper WernerExecutive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Thanks, Tim. This is Cooper. Yes, I'll take that. So we did have a good growth quarter in Q2. I would say it was right where we expected it to be for the quarter. You're right, we do caution against kind of over-rotating on any individual quarter's reported revenue growth rate. The second half of the year is where we have a more balanced growth expectation for the year. And just based on where we're at with the renewal base, we continue to expect to perform as we had seen it shaping up for the year. And so that's where we're still at the mid-single-digit growth rate for the year, but all trends look very healthy. And then, yes, as we look ahead to next year, we do expect to see an inflection in the growth rate. We're continuing to see strong trends around consumption rates across that renewal base, and we have a larger base coming up for renewal next year. And so with the expansion we would anticipate against that larger renewal base, we feel pretty confident about a higher growth rate into FY '27.

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Timothy LongAnalyst, Barclays

Okay. Great. And then if I could, on the AI front, a lot of different applications, a lot of activity. Maybe you could help us a little bit with some benchmarks or some metrics, how do we frame the success revenues, orders, customers? How should we look at it? Any data points you can give us as far as the scale and the traction you guys are seeing on the customer side?

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Francois Locoh-DonouChairman, President and CEO

Yes, Tim, it's Francois here. So what we're seeing in AI, Tim, is that enterprises are now putting AI into production. The term we use is inferencing, and that's creating substantial opportunity for F5. We've talked about three big areas where we see opportunity. The first one is in hardening data pipelines between data stores and AI models, a use case we call data delivery, and we're seeing growing demand for F5 in these use cases. We're also seeing growing demand in securing AI in runtime. Both AI applications and AI models increasingly require security that is tailored for AI models that traditional security solutions do not address. We also address AI factory load balancing, which is a third area where we're starting to see growing demand. If you look at all that, and if you look at the first half of the year, we had approximately $50 million in sales in the first half of the year on these use cases. That's up more than 200% year-over-year. And we're now approaching about 100 customers that are using F5 for their AI use cases. That's why we have a bit of a conservative estimate, because those are our customers from whom we absolutely know that they are using F5 for these AI use cases. We believe there are other parts of the business where we're getting indirect benefits from customers getting ready for their AI infrastructure, but those are harder to quantify, harder to count. So the ones I'm sharing with you are ones where we actually have the data and can attribute it directly to these use cases. So enterprise AI is one of the big trends that's fueling some tailwinds in our business. And hybrid multicloud and an expanding threat landscape are the other two very significant trends we're seeing.

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Operator provided instructions. We'll move next to Samik Chatterjee at JPMorgan.

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Samik ChatterjeeAnalyst, JPMorgan

Francois, pretty strong quarter. You're raising the guide for the year as well and getting ready, it seems to give us a more longer-term view of the business. Just trying to get sort of how you're thinking about sustainability of the high single-digit growth as you look forward given that you did sort of have a softer year in software this year, but you also have the hardware sort of tailwinds in relation to end of support for some of your products. Like how should we think about sustainability of these growth rates as you look forward beyond this year? How are you thinking about that, if you can help us? And then I have a follow-up.

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Francois Locoh-DonouChairman, President and CEO

Yes, Samik. I mean, as it relates specifically to software, I think Cooper touched on it: we expect even stronger software growth next year than this year. But let me step back a little and talk about the overall business, Samik. We are seeing a couple of things. One, of course, is a very strong refresh cycle and the refresh cycle, by definition, is cyclical. But we are also seeing three secular trends that we think are very durable and that are growing and accelerating our business. The first is hybrid multicloud. We’ve been talking at F5 about hybrid multicloud for several years. If you look at the past few years, hybrid multicloud was by default because customers needed the flexibility to put their applications in different environments. Now we’re seeing it as more of a strategic architecture designed for digital sovereignty reasons, so customers can rely not just on big public clouds but on local cloud alternatives or on-premises environments. They’re also implementing hybrid multicloud architectures for resilience reasons, and increasingly AI is pushing customers toward these hybrid multicloud approaches. That is a secular trend that’s here for the long term and provides substantial, durable tailwinds for the business. The other trend we’re seeing is that the threat landscape is expanding. Customers are facing more frequent and more sophisticated attacks because of AI. A recent report showed web attacks were up 77% year over year and bot attacks were up 150% year over year. All of that means our customers have more things to protect—their apps, their APIs, and now AI models, both on-premises and in the cloud. With attacks becoming more frequent and sophisticated, there is a need for best-in-class application security solutions, which is where F5 has been focused, and we are seeing that demand in our business. To give you a couple of data points, in our distributed cloud services platform this quarter, the number of customers choosing F5 for web application firewalls was up 62% year over year, customers choosing F5 for API security was up 54% year over year, and for bot defense it was up 33% year over year. You can see these trends of increasing attacks, customers responding and needing best-in-class application security solutions and coming to F5. These are important trends, we think they are durable, Samik, and therefore we believe the inflection we’re seeing in our business is likely to continue.

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Samik ChatterjeeAnalyst, JPMorgan

Got it. Got it. And Francois, maybe I'll follow up on that aspect itself regarding the attacks that customers have to be ready for. Have you seen any change, or even an increase, in engagement following all the discussion enterprises have had about Anthropic's Mythos model and the vulnerabilities it highlighted? Are you seeing a step change in engagement with customers on the security front? How are you advising your customers to address some of those issues?

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Francois Locoh-DonouChairman, President and CEO

Thank you, Samik, for the second question. Yes, we are seeing a step change. We've had a number of conversations over the last several weeks with customers. We are now in an era where the window of time for an enterprise to patch their applications has effectively closed because AI models are very powerful and can find and exploit vulnerabilities in any application almost in real time. There are a couple of implications. First, if you don't have a significant window of time to patch your applications, you will rely more on runtime security, specifically runtime security that protects the front door of your applications. That's precisely where F5 has focused, and customers are telling us they will have to rely on us even more than in the past. Second, we believe all security is going to be AI-powered. Static security and static signatures will not be able to cope with the speed and capability of these new models in creating exploits. This is a shift we saw coming, and we have been investing in AI-powered security for a while. This quarter we released our AI-powered web application firewall and our Agentic Bot Defense solution. Over time, our entire portfolio will be AI-powered; we are already fighting AI with AI, and that is a significant change for our customers. Another step change, which was already happening but is being accelerated by this new era, is consolidation toward platforms. If a customer is operating in multiple environments — and 95% of our customers operate in hybrid and multicloud environments — point-product solutions in any one environment create complexity when systems must be patched quickly. We expect more customers to move toward platforms, and the breadth of our portfolio can help them simplify operations. Those are three implications we see with this change, and we are hearing this in our conversations with customers over the last several weeks.

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Operator provided instructions. We'll go next to Simon Leopold at Raymond James.

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Simon LeopoldAnalyst, Raymond James

I wanted to ask about, I guess, a phenomenon that may be occurring. And what we've heard is that some customers may be showing a preference for your hardware solutions based on the performance, the relative performance that perhaps the total cost of ownership of implementing software is actually more expensive than the relative hardware. I'm wondering if you're seeing this shift and that might explain some of the relative growth between your hardware and software.

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Francois Locoh-DonouChairman, President and CEO

Well, Simon, first of all, we are seeing a number of customers recommitting to hardware. I wouldn't say it's just about performance; performance is a factor, but there are a number of reasons customers are doing that. One reason is many customers are modernizing their data centers and want strong on-prem infrastructure with high performance. In the first half, just to give you a data point, we generated about $60 million in sales from customers who had previously stopped buying hardware and then recommitted. So we are seeing this phenomenon of customers returning to hardware. But if you expand from that, because we delivered 22% growth on hardware this quarter and 17% growth on software, the broader trend is that hybrid multicloud is driving customers to both modernize their data centers and continue to invest in software to have the flexibility to deploy the same solution, the same software stack from F5, either on-prem or in public clouds. So yes, there is very strong momentum on hardware right now, but we continue to see customers wanting the flexibility of software or subscription-based software to deploy licenses across their environment.

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Simon LeopoldAnalyst, Raymond James

And just as a quick follow-up, please. Could you update us on any progress around the engagement and discussions you've had with NVIDIA? You've talked about that on earlier calls. I'm not sure that you've updated us on the prepared remarks. So any updates you can offer?

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Francois Locoh-DonouChairman, President and CEO

Yes, of course. As you know, we have developed an integration with NVIDIA in which we refactored our software to run on ARM architectures and specifically on NVIDIA BlueField technology. We've worked closely with NVIDIA over the last 18 months. As of December, we were formally included in NVIDIA's reference architecture. Since then, several tests, including third-party evaluations, have measured the efficiency gains from this integration. Those tests validated that integrating F5 software on NVIDIA DPUs helps AI factories generate 30% to 40% more tokens for a given number of GPUs. We are now taking that value proposition to market and are engaged in multiple proofs of concept and trials around this technology. What we are seeing is that many customers building AI factories are still early in sophistication: their first priority is to get these AI factories and GPU farms up and running and to get Kubernetes clusters working. That requires significant technical expertise, and customers are focused on that. For providers offering GPUs as a service, the initial goal is simply to get the GPUs working and available to their customers. Making those GPUs more efficient is the next challenge, and as more customers move to inference, we believe this value proposition will resonate.

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Operator provided instructions. We'll go next to Matt Hedberg at RBC Capital Markets.

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Matthew HedbergAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets

Based on a lot of our conversations with partners and customers, we think F5 sits at really a critical junction in really this hybrid cloud infrastructure build-out and increasing AI app traffic. In your prepared remarks, you talked about sort of your role in this evolving threat landscape. And I'm curious, you have a lot of security solutions now, but are you hearing customers pull you into additional use cases? Or you're in such a unique spot of the traffic flow with the lens that you see. Are there other opportunities for you to add either further security capabilities in this kind of this new AI era?

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Francois Locoh-DonouChairman, President and CEO

Well, absolutely. So a couple of things. I shared earlier that in this new era, runtime security, and specifically securing the front door of applications, will be even more important than in the past, especially for customers who, like us, have invested in best-in-class application and API security. The first trend we’re seeing is very strong growth in web application security, API security, and bot security. API discovery, whether on-premises or in the cloud, is also becoming a growing use case as more customers worry about knowing where all their APIs are and being able to protect them. With AI, there is a new attack surface: AI models and agents, both of which will use more APIs, so customers will need help discovering and securing them. Over the last few months we’ve introduced AI Red Team and AI Guardrails, technologies that help customers detect vulnerabilities in their AI models and mitigate those vulnerabilities. We’ve also introduced a product called AI Remediate that automates the process of creating mitigations for these vulnerabilities. All of these are new security use cases that will grow as customers deploy more AI models in production. So we are seeing new use cases and opportunities for F5, with security being a very significant opportunity. But as I said earlier, we’re also seeing opportunity in delivery, specifically in data delivery for AI.

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Matthew HedbergAnalyst, RBC Capital Markets

That's great. That's great. And then Francois, the other thing you touched on in your prepared remarks was that you're starting to see AI inferencing inflect with your customer base, which makes sense given some of the AI models and innovation we're seeing. It seems to me that the broader non-AI-native cohort of customers is becoming increasingly AI-leaning. Can you talk about how early we are in that process? Is this part of a multiyear inflection? Could we still be talking about this inferencing inflection two years from now, for instance?

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Francois Locoh-DonouChairman, President and CEO

Yes. So, Matt, I think the customers who are today really focused on AI security and protecting AI models and AI applications, which face new types of vulnerabilities like prompt injections and model abuse, are a small minority. They are typically the largest customers in any vertical, the ones with a lot of security sophistication, such as financial services companies and very large technology companies. But today they are a small minority of the universe of customers we serve. I think that number of customers will grow over the next couple of years as more and more customers implement AI for inference. We are just at the very start of this trend, and the number of models used for inference and agents will dramatically increase over the next couple of years.

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Operator provided instructions. We'll go next to George Notter at Wolfe Research.

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George NotterAnalyst, Wolfe Research

If I look back, you guys have been raising prices pretty conservatively, I think, once per year. Obviously, there's some more memory costs here. You mentioned in the context of gross margins. But any thoughts about raising prices a bit more aggressively or a bit more frequently? And I think if I look back historically, you guys also talked about kind of balancing price increases with the opportunity to gain share. And I'm just curious like on the share side of things, are you making progress there? Are there any metrics you can give us in terms of logos or incremental revenue or share that you can point to that kind of reinforce the idea that you guys are winning share?

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Cooper WernerExecutive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, George, thanks. This is Cooper. I'll start on the pricing. So we do have kind of an annual pricing review that we do. Typically, it's in our Q2 where we make price adjustments to factor in the innovation we've been bringing to market, and that's part of our ongoing playbook. We've also been closely monitoring what's been going on with memory and SSD pricing, which has just been accelerating through the year and really kind of had a big step-up in Q2. And that's something that we continue to look at price adjustments to pass through some of that impact through to offset the impact on our gross profits. It's a combination of price adjustments and discount discipline. And that's something that we have to stay really agile with, and we'll continue to kind of monitor that and make those adjustments on more of a one-off basis tied specifically to the rising cost of memory. But then long term, as we think about share, what we've seen, particularly recently is our competitive takeout rate has gone up pretty materially. And I think that really speaks to the hybrid multicloud adoption that our customers are seeing where we're really the only vendor in the space that can support the customers' applications in any environment. And that's really been resonating, particularly recently with the evolving threat landscape as customers are looking for a platform approach to resolve a number of complexities in their environment, and they've been coming to F5. And so we've been seeing a lot of share gain in that regard.

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Operator provided instructions. Our next question comes from James Fish at Piper Sandler.

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James FishAnalyst, Piper Sandler

Great quarter. Maybe to give Francois a bit of a break on especially the AI side, Cooper for you. I'm going to get asked this tomorrow. So on the 2-point raise to guide here for the year, it looks about 1 point is from this past quarter's upside. Are you actually passing through memory much at this point? And what are you guys assuming from memory prices kind of in the back half of the year? Do you have enough supply still lined up given the outperformance of hardware? And how far along with, you are on migrating the DDR5 from DDR4 in particular?

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Cooper WernerExecutive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes. Okay. I'll try to make sure I hit all three. But if I forget, please let me know. So in terms of our revenue guide for the year, that doesn't really contemplate new pricing adjustments. I just referenced the work that we're doing around that. But any pricing adjustments that we did are more likely going to flow through into FY '27 just based on where we are with the cycle. So it is something that we continue to look at, but it's not really a significant component to our back half revenue guide for the year. In terms of supply availability, yes, we feel pretty good about our near-term visibility. We've really been out in front of this, and I'm really proud of our manufacturing team for identifying this as an issue going back to kind of mid-FY '25, where we increased our build forecast. We extended the length of our build forecast, and we took on additional supply on components that we thought might have more constraints. And so that's allowed us to secure the memory that we need not just for the revenue outlook that we had at the time, but for the upside we've been delivering over the last 6 quarters or so. And so we feel pretty good, at least for the near term. Now you get it longer term into FY '27, the build forecast we have out there are within our needs for what we would expect to do on the high side for our systems business. Obviously, the visibility 4 or 5 quarters out is not as strong as it is in the near term. But right now, we feel pretty good with where we sit. And then the last question, DDR4. So yes, the current appliance lineup that we have leverages DDR4. Future appliance cycles will be on newer technology. We haven't discussed the timing of those, the next generation of appliances.

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James FishAnalyst, Piper Sandler

Fair enough. If I could follow up, when I look at your billings you had a really strong deferred balance, especially on the current side. Are you seeing any net pull-in of demand or a buildup of product backlog? Many of us remember the supply chain crisis a few years ago, and this would be about the time you would expect to start seeing backlogs emerge.

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Cooper WernerExecutive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes. So just to be clear, backlog does not show up in our deferred revenue. So our deferred revenue strength is almost entirely tied to our services business where we have maintenance renewals. And we saw the strength both on short-term and long-term deferred maintenance is actually a little bit higher on the long term. And we did see some customers that were doing multi-year renewals. I'm certain that some of them are getting in front of perceived risk around price increases as they're working with other vendors. And so that is playing out to an extent, I would imagine, on the maintenance side. But the growth is not tied to product orders.

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Operator provided instructions. Next, we'll move to Meta Marshall at Morgan Stanley.

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Meta MarshallAnalyst, Morgan Stanley

A couple of questions for me. One, just on the continued strength that you're seeing in EMEA and particularly around data sovereignty, just how much further or kind of are there initiatives that you guys are taking to kind of capitalize on that opportunity? And then maybe second, a very clean competitive landscape kind of on the ADC front, just as a lot of those vendors have kind of fallen by the wayside. But just as you move more on to the security space, just what are you seeing in terms of the competitive landscape there or the chance to gain mind share there?

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Francois Locoh-DonouChairman, President and CEO

Thank you, Meta. On EMEA we think the trend we’re seeing there is durable. In fact, we saw an acceleration in that trend this quarter. Many customers — government agencies, the defense sector, and regulated industries including financial services — have a strong push for digital sovereignty. That often means modernization, reinvestment in data centers, and creating consistent security and delivery across hybrid multicloud environments. We’re seeing an interesting pattern where customers who had split teams for public cloud and on-premise environments are now moving back to true hybrid multicloud architectures and merging those teams. That creates more opportunities for a provider that can meet needs across on-prem and public cloud with a single platform. We expect that trend to continue in EMEA. We have increased our field coverage in EMEA and will likely continue to expand it, with a particular emphasis on the defense sector because we’re seeing significant spend there. On the competitive landscape in security, we are focused on runtime application and API security, and we’re seeing substantial growth for both on-premises and cloud requirements. Our differentiation is the ability to serve both environments with an extensive security portfolio that includes application firewall, API protection, bot defense, and DoS protection. Frankly, none of our competitors in application or AI security are truly hybrid multicloud, so as more customers embrace these architectures and need solutions for both on-prem and public cloud, we are uniquely positioned with a very strong value proposition. There are several examples I mentioned in my prepared remarks where customers needed a solution that worked both on-prem and in the cloud, and they came to F5. That consistency is more important than ever, and we will continue to invest there. One of the highlights of the quarter for me was the incredible innovation from our product team in security. We released an AI-powered WAF and have already seen significant interest. We introduced a new Agentic Bot Defense solution to determine which agents are authorized to access a model and which are not. We launched F5 AI Remediate and an AI-powered F5 Insights, and we brought API Discovery on-premise with our BIG-IP solution. A lot of this accelerating innovation is partly because we are leveraging AI to do it. I’m excited that we invested in hybrid multicloud architectures ahead of others, are beginning to reap the rewards, and are now doubling down on innovation to capture the growing set of opportunities ahead.

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Operator provided instructions. We'll move next to Jeffrey Hopson at Needham.

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John Jeffrey HopsonAnalyst, Needham

I just wanted to follow up on the memory situation and the gross margin implications. You gave guidance for the last quarter to have a step down from 3Q to 4Q. Just curious if there's any more color on the magnitude of that step down. I think I had like around 150 basis points. And is this just a function of memory bought today takes about 2 quarters to flow through, and that's kind of dynamics at play?

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Cooper WernerExecutive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes, thank you. That's the dynamic. As I referenced earlier, we took a fairly extensive position early, so we've been able to mitigate any impact through the first half of this year. Now we're starting to see some of the later purchases we've made at higher price points flow through the model. That will begin in Q3 and be closer to a full run rate in Q4. Memory pricing is incredibly dynamic, and we're trying to read the signals for the next few quarters. We expect relief several quarters out, but for at least the better part of fiscal 2027, we anticipate memory prices will remain elevated.

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John Jeffrey HopsonAnalyst, Needham

Got it. And maybe just on the U.S. Federal side. It's been a couple of really nice quarters. Maybe just any additional information on the dynamics that are going on in U.S. Fed?

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Francois Locoh-DonouChairman, President and CEO

Yes. Generally, the dynamics are strong. We had a strong Fed quarter. And I would actually expand that beyond U.S. Fed to the global government sector in the first half was really strong. I think you're seeing that. That's not, I would say, just an F5 trend. I think you're seeing that generally defense spending across the globe has been growing, and we are a beneficiary of that trend, in part because generally, defense customers are investing more in security, in part also because those customers are very hybrid multicloud. We have a number of customers in the defense sectors that want air-gapped environment. Sometimes they want to leverage cloud as well, but a lot of them want air-gapped environment in their own data centers. We have been making investments for that opportunity, and we're seeing the benefit of that today. So I think the Fed has been strong for us. But globally, government spending has been strong, and I think will continue to be for the next several quarters.

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Operator provided instructions. We'll move next to Amit Daryanani at Evercore ISI.

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This is Ketan on for Amit. I guess services growth at 2% was fairly muted. Can you maybe just touch on what's happening there and maybe your updated thoughts on how to think about it in the long term?

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Cooper WernerExecutive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes. I'll start. I would say, ironically, I think this is tied to a good news story, which is the strength that we're seeing with the refresh, and this is kind of the dynamic that we've seen with past refresh cycles. When you see a strong refresh in the very near term, it has a little bit of a headwind to the services business. And part of that has to do with you're replacing legacy appliances that have been carrying service for a number of years. And as those come out of the system, and then you backfill with the new appliances, there's a little bit of a lag on the maintenance revenue stream. Conversely, when we've had periods where customers are sweating assets, that's where you saw some strength in the maintenance revenue. So the longer-term picture is that the refresh has been very strong, and it's a refresh plus expansion story. And what we're seeing is that we're getting better retention of that footprint than we had in prior cycles. Ultimately, that's going to be a great story for services because with the larger footprint that you get maintenance revenue against, you're going to see a better revenue outcome. But in the very immediate term, as customers are making the transition, it's a bit of a headwind on the maintenance revenue.

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Operator provided instructions. Next, we'll move to Tal Liani at Bank of America.

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Tal LianiAnalyst, Bank of America

I think everyone is trying to get to the same question: is this finally a sign that AI is driving the company's growth, or is this just a temporary refresh story? My question is why we are seeing the growth mainly outside the U.S. rather than in the U.S. The U.S. is leading in AI, yet of the $80 million year-over-year growth, only $11 million came from the U.S., and last year of $56 million only $7 million was U.S. So most of the growth is outside the U.S. I am trying to connect the AI uplift story to the fact that growth is coming predominantly from outside the U.S. Why aren't we seeing more U.S. growth? And secondly, why is there a lag between systems growth, which has grown consistently each quarter from $160 million to $226 million over five quarters, and software, which has returned to Q1 2025 levels around $160–$164 million? At the time of a refresh, don't companies also upgrade their software packages, and shouldn't we therefore see growth in software?

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Francois Locoh-DonouChairman, President and CEO

Okay Tal, thank you. I will start and then Cooper may complement me on a couple of aspects you've raised. Let me start with the U.S. First of all, the trends of our business in the U.S. are very healthy. I would not read too much into a given quarter's performance of this or that region. Some of it is the timing of what was able to ship to which customers in the quarter. But generally, the trends that we're seeing around the expanding threat landscape are creating more opportunity. We had a very strong security quarter, as I shared. That expanding threat landscape, driving more security opportunity for F5, is a global trend. The trend of AI, and I shared some numbers earlier, is that we are approaching 100 customers in AI. We did about $50 million in sales in the first half of the year in AI. That is a global trend that obviously includes the U.S., and the U.S. is actually pretty strong in that trend. The hybrid multicloud trend is also global, including in the U.S., where we are seeing more customers want resiliency. But that particular trend is very pronounced in Europe, the Middle East and Africa because of digital sovereignty requirements there, and we are seeing extra growth coming from that region. So when you're trying to dissect what's the refresh versus what are secular trends, the three trends I mentioned are secular and global. In addition, of course, we have a strong refresh cycle. Cooper mentioned the attributes of the refresh. It is stronger than usual because we have an even higher retention rate than we've had in the past, and we have more customers expanding at the time of refresh. That is also a global trend. But what I would take away is that the three big trends I've talked about are secular and global, and they are at play in the U.S. as well.

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Cooper WernerExecutive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Yes. And then just to touch on the software and systems dynamic, just a couple of dynamics that I would point you to is, one, the software business is largely a subscription business. We said this quarter, 90% of our software business was subscription. And of that subscription business, the majority does come through in a renewal motion. And so we are seeing strong attach of software at the time of refresh, but it's still a relatively small component of the overall software number. The majority of the software number is this base that we continue to expand over time. And we referenced this year that because the renewal cycle is coming off of our flat software year from FY '23 that there would be a bit of a slower growth rate this year, followed by a much stronger growth rate next year. So don't mistake that the slower growth rate this year is having to do with expansion in attach rates at that time of refresh because those trends are actually pretty healthy.

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Operator provided instructions. We'll move next to Michael Ng at Goldman Sachs.

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Michael NgAnalyst, Goldman Sachs

I just have two. First, this is just on systems revenue growth in fiscal '27. Obviously, you guys have had two strong back-to-back years in systems revenue. Could you just talk about your early expectations around whether fiscal '27 systems can grow just given the strong refresh that we've had in the last couple of years? And then a related question, it's been about, I think, 4, 5 years since the launch of rSeries and BIG-IP VELOS. Are you expecting a new kind of ADC form factor system to drive another refresh cycle, particularly given all the incremental demand from AI? Just wondering how you guys think about new products on the ADC side.

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Cooper WernerExecutive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer

Okay, I'll start with the growth question. It's a little early to provide guidance for next year, but we do expect a growth opportunity for the systems business given where we are in the refresh cycle and the strong trends we've seen in both expansion at refresh and new use cases. We haven't focused on that as much, but we've been seeing healthy growth outside of refresh as well. Some of this comes from AI use cases we've discussed, and we're seeing higher takeout rates from competitors. Data sovereignty and digital sovereignty dynamics are also driving new business in addition to expansion at refresh. All of that gives us good visibility two quarters into next year, and we feel positive about the growth opportunity. Regarding the next range of appliances and systems offerings, we won't get into specifics at this point, but we are well into planning. We see interesting growth opportunities further downstream as we consider things like PQC. Continuous investment and innovation in our systems and software has been critically important, and I believe we're one of the few players that has consistently invested in systems. That's paying off now. We've always believed customers need choice and that environments are dynamic and architectures can change over time, so giving customers flexibility in deployment will be important, and that's evident in the business we're seeing.

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And that concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the conference back over to Suzanne for closing remarks.

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Suzanne DuLongVice President, Investor Relations

Thank you, Audra. We look forward to seeing many of you during the quarter and especially at our Analyst and Investor Day in May. Watch for more details in the press release about the event coming soon. And thank you all for joining us.

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And this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.

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