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Monolithic Power Systems, Inc. (“MPS”) is a fabless global company that provides high-performance, semiconductor-based power electronics solutions. MPS’s mission is to reduce energy and material consumption to improve all aspects of quality of life and create a sustainable future. Founded in 1997 by our CEO Michael Hsing, MPS has three core strengths: deep system-level knowledge, strong semiconductor design expertise, and innovative proprietary technologies in the areas of semiconductor processes, system integration, and packaging. These combined advantages enable MPS to deliver reliable, compact, and monolithic solutions that are highly energy-efficient, cost-effective, and environmentally responsible while providing a consistent return on investment to our stockholders. MPS can be contacted through its website at www.monolithicpower.com or its support offices around the world. ### Monolithic Power Systems, MPS, and the MPS logo are registered trademarks of Monolithic Power Systems, Inc. in the U.S. and trademarked in certain other countries.

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Monolithic Power System Inc (MPWR) — Q4 2019 Earnings Call Transcript

Apr 5, 202610 speakers4,916 words66 segments

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The 30-second take

MPWR finished a strong year with record revenue, even as the broader chip industry struggled. The company is excited about new opportunities in areas like 5G, artificial intelligence, and automotive, but admits it cut its inventory too low, which may limit how fast it can grow in the coming months.

Key numbers mentioned

  • Full year 2019 revenue of $627.9 million
  • Q4 2019 revenue of $166.7 million
  • Q4 2019 non-GAAP earnings per share of $1.04
  • Q1 2020 revenue forecast in the range of $161 million to $167 million
  • Quarterly dividend increased to $0.50 per share from $0.40
  • Inventory days at 155 days at the end of Q4 2019

What management is worried about

  • The company deliberately reduced inventory in Q3 and Q4 2019, which in hindsight was not necessary, resulting in a level that is too low to maximize growth in the next few months.
  • The consumer market, with the exception of home appliances and wearables, decreased between years.
  • Consumer revenue is also very seasonal, and it’s normal to expect a decline from Q4 to Q1.
  • Industrial revenue performance in the second half of the year reflected inventory builds by customers anticipating trade restrictions, so that area may fall off in Q1.
  • Litigation expenses are expected to be in the range of $1.5 million to $2.5 million as MPS prepares for an upcoming trial.

What management is excited about

  • More and more first-tier companies recognized MPS’ superior technologies as well as product quality and excellent customer support.
  • The company won a major contract to support a tier 1 automotive supplier, which will begin generating revenue in the next 2 to 3 years.
  • MPS began volume shipments of high current programmable power modules for communication applications such as 5G networks.
  • The company entered the high-performance analog market with the formation of a high-precision data acquisition business group, expecting to release products in 2020.
  • The e-commerce business is doing really well, and by the end of 2020, it will move some needles.

Analyst questions that hit hardest

  1. Jeremy Kwan, Stifel Nicolaus: Quantifying inventory constraints. Management responded evasively, stating it was difficult to predict which products to ramp and that they were not identifying a specific risk factor, just that there may be constraints beyond their guidance.
  2. Josh Buchalter (for Matt Ramsay), Cowen: Specific drivers of the inventory change and margin impact. Management gave a broad answer, stating the inventory tightness was across the board and that bringing up a new fab would not have an immediate margin impact.
  3. Unidentified Analyst (for Ross Seymore), Deutsche Bank: Impact of inventory constraints on growth targets. Management acknowledged the constraints would prevent them from maximizing growth, leading to partial shipments to customers.

The quote that matters

Our inventory level is too low for MPS to maximize our growth in the next few months.

Michael Hsing — CEO

Sentiment vs. last quarter

Omit this section as no previous quarter summary was provided for comparison.

Original transcript

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to Monolithic Power Systems’ Fourth Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants' lines are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. Please be advised that today’s conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, Monolithic’s CFO, Bernie Blegen. Please go ahead, sir.

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Bernie BlegenCFO

Thank you very much. Good afternoon, and welcome to the fourth quarter 2019 Monolithic Power Systems conference call. I’m joined today by Michael Hsing, Monolithic’s CEO and Founder. In the course of today’s conference call, we will make forward-looking statements and projections that involve risk and uncertainty, which could cause results to differ materially from management’s current views and expectations. Please refer to the Safe Harbor Statement contained in the earnings release published today. Risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ are identified in the Safe Harbor Statement contained in the Q4 earnings release and in our SEC filings, including our Form 10-K filed on March 1, 2019, and Form 10-Q filed on November 1, 2019, both of which are accessible through our website, www.monolithicpower.com. MPS assumes no obligation to update the information provided on today’s call. We will be discussing gross margins, operating expense, R&D and SG&A expense, operating income, interest and other income, net income and earnings on both a GAAP and a non-GAAP basis. These non-GAAP financial measures are not prepared in accordance with GAAP and should not be considered as a substitute for or superior to measures of financial performance prepared in accordance with GAAP. A table that outlines the reconciliation between the non-GAAP financial measures to GAAP financial measures is included in our earnings release, which we have filed with the SEC. I would refer investors to the Q4 2018, Q3 2019, and Q4 2019 earnings releases as well as to the reconciling tables that are posted on our website. I’d also like to remind you that today’s conference call is being webcast live over the Internet and will be available for replay on our website for one year, along with the earnings release filed with the SEC earlier today. For the full year 2019, MPS achieved record revenue of $627.9 million, growing 7.8% from the prior year, while our industry segment experienced a significant downturn. As always, we executed our strategies consistently. In recent years, especially in 2019, more and more first-tier companies recognized MPS’ superior technologies as well as our product quality and our excellent customer support. We see a lot more high-quality growth opportunities ahead of us. Our objective is to successfully manage our expenses to support our growth, which will, in turn, benefit our shareholders in both the long and short term. Here are a few highlights which we achieved in 2019. Introduced leading-edge system solutions using QSMoD technologies for GPU-based, artificial intelligence and machine learning applications. Introduced 48-volt QSMoD technology for both cloud-based and automotive applications, coupled with our design wins in QSMoD in AI applications. MPS is at the early stage of this important revenue ramp. Won a major contract to support a tier 1 automotive supplier, which will begin generating revenue in the next 2 to 3 years. Successfully co-developed cutting-edge solutions for smart driving systems and lighting applications. Began volume shipments of high current programmable power modules for communication applications such as 5G networks. Entered the high-performance analog market with the formation of a high-precision data acquisition business group. With input from our customers, we have completed the detailed product specifications. We expect to release these products in 2020. The initial revenue ramp is expected to begin in 2021. The rollout of these advanced products will mark MPS’ introduction in the highly profitable, high-speed precision data acquisition market segment. We understand the road to success may not be smooth, however, we believe our commitment will pay off in the long term and our shareholders will be pleased with the results of these efforts in the coming years. Let’s go through low lights. We really don’t have any, except there is one item worth pointing out. We deliberately reduced our inventory in Q3 and Q4 2019, which in hindsight was not necessary. As a result, our current inventory level is too low for MPS to maximize our growth in the next few months. Although we can still keep up our growth rate as in the past, we, unfortunately, may not be able to take full advantage of all the potential upside. In order to fulfill customers’ demand in the second half of 2020, we now have to commit tremendous effort in order to accelerate our schedule to bring up a second 12-inch fab. This has created an unnecessary hardship for our team. Turning back to our full year 2019 revenue by market segment compared with 2018. Communications revenue, up 20.1%. Computing and storage, up 18.9%. Automotive, up 12.8%. And industrial, up 12.3%. Consumer revenue was down 10.8%. Full year 2019 computing and storage revenue grew $30.1 million over the prior year to $189.2 million. This 18.9% increase primarily resulted from strong sales growth for cloud computing and high-end notebooks. Computing and storage revenue represented 30.1% of MPS’ total revenue in 2019 compared with 27.3% in 2018. Communications revenue grew $14.2 million to $84.8 million. This improvement was primarily due to initial ramping of 5G infrastructure sales. Communications revenue represented 13.5% of our 2019 revenue compared with 12.1% in 2018. Automotive revenue grew $10.2 million to $90.3 million in 2019. This growth primarily represented increased sales of infotainment, safety and connectivity application products. Automotive revenue represented 14.4% of MPS’ full year 2019 revenue compared with 13.8% in 2018. Industrial revenue grew $10.9 million to $99.4 million in 2019. This growth reflected sales for applications in power sources, security and industrial meters. Industrial revenue represented 15.8% of MPS’ full year 2019 revenue compared with 15.2% in 2018. Consumer revenue fell $19.9 million to $164.2 million, with the exception of home appliances and wearables, all major consumer markets decreased between years. Consumer revenue represented 26.2% of MPS’ full year 2019 revenue compared with 31.6% in 2018. Switching to Q4. MPS had a record fourth quarter with revenue of $166.7 million, 1.2% lower than revenue generated in the third quarter of 2019, but 8.6% higher than the comparable quarter of 2018. Our market segment revenue from computing and storage grew 27.8% year-over-year. Automotive grew 8.6% and communications grew 8.5%. Industrial was essentially even with Q4 2018, while consumer revenue fell 5.7% from the prior year. Fourth quarter 2019 GAAP gross margin was 55.1%, 10 basis points lower than the third quarter of 2019, but even with margin reported in the fourth quarter of 2018. Our GAAP operating income was $30.7 million compared to $30.0 million reported in the third quarter of 2019 and $33.1 million reported in the fourth quarter of 2018. Fourth quarter 2019 non-GAAP gross margin was 55.5%, 10 basis points lower than both the third quarter of 2019 and the fourth quarter of 2018. Our non-GAAP operating income was $50.8 million compared to $51.4 million reported in the prior quarter and $46.6 million reported in the fourth quarter of 2018. Let’s review our operating expenses. Our GAAP operating expenses were $61.2 million in the fourth quarter compared with $63.1 million in the third quarter of 2019 and $51.5 million in the fourth quarter of 2018. Our non-GAAP fourth quarter 2019 operating expenses were $41.8 million, down from the $42.5 million we spent in the third quarter of 2019, but up from the $38.7 million reported in the fourth quarter of 2018. On both the GAAP and a non-GAAP basis, fourth quarter 2019 litigation expenses were $991,000 compared with a $692,000 expense in Q3 2019 and a $409,000 expense in Q4 2018. The differences between GAAP and non-GAAP operating expenses for the quarters discussed here are stock compensation and income or loss from an unfunded deferred compensation plan. Fourth quarter 2019 stock compensation expense, including $574,000 charged to cost of goods sold was $18.7 million compared with $21.3 million recorded in the third quarter of 2019. Switching to the bottom line. Fourth quarter 2019 GAAP net income was $32.4 million or $0.70 per fully diluted share compared with $0.64 per share in the third quarter of 2019 and $0.61 per share in the fourth quarter of 2018. Q4 2019 non-GAAP net income was $48.4 million or $1.04 per fully diluted share compared with $1.08 per share in the third quarter of 2019 and $0.99 per share in the fourth quarter of 2018. Fully diluted shares outstanding at the end of Q4 2019 were 46.5 million. Now let’s look at the balance sheet. As of December 31, 2019, cash, cash equivalents and investments totaled $458.5 million compared to $422.0 million at the end of the third quarter of 2019. For the quarter, MPS generated operating cash flow of about $61.0 million compared with Q3 2019 operating cash flow of $72.4 million. Fourth quarter 2019 capital spending totaled $8.7 million. Accounts receivable ended the fourth quarter of 2019 at $52.7 million or 29 days of sales outstanding compared with the $58.3 million or 31 days reported at the end of the third quarter of 2019 and the $55.2 million or 33 days reported in the fourth quarter of 2018. Our internal inventories at the end of the fourth quarter of 2019 were $127.5 million, down from the $135.6 million at the end of the third quarter of 2019. Days of inventory fell to 155 days at the end of Q4 2019 from 163 days at the end of the third quarter of 2019. Before turning to our outlook for Q1 2020, I would like to remind everybody of our long-term non-GAAP financial model, which has been largely unchanged for the past 5 years. First, we target to grow revenue at a rate that is 10 to 15 percentage points greater than our peers. In a year where the market is expected to grow between 5 to 8 percentage points, we believe that MPS should be able to grow annual revenue from 15% to 20%. Second, we target quarterly gross margin to grow by 10 to 20 basis points sequentially. Third, to ensure continued growth, we target increases in our R&D and SG&A investment at 50% to 60% of the annual revenue growth rate. Finally, we expect to return 30% to 40% of the company’s annual free cash flow to shareholders. This long-term financial model is an important tool in setting expectations for accelerated revenue growth and providing operating leverage while allowing for a proper level of business reinvestment. I would now like to turn to our Q1 2020 outlook. We are forecasting Q1 2020 revenue in the range of $161 million to $167 million. We also expect the following: GAAP gross margin in the range of 55.1% to 55.7%. Non-GAAP gross margin in the range of 55.4% to 56.0%. Total stock-based compensation expense of $18 million to $20 million, including approximately $600,000 that would be charged to cost of goods sold. GAAP R&D and SG&A expenses between $58.4 million and $62.4 million. Non-GAAP R&D and SG&A expenses to be in the range of $41.0 million to $43.0 million. This estimate excludes stock compensation and litigation expenses. Litigation expenses to be in the range of $1.5 million to $2.5 million as MPS prepares for an upcoming trial, which is set to begin at the end of March. Interest income is expected in the range of $1.5 million to $1.7 million before foreign exchange gains or losses. Fully diluted shares to be in the range of 46.2 million to 47.2 million shares. Finally, we are pleased to announce a 25% increase in our quarterly dividend to $0.50 per share from $0.40 per share for shareholders of record as of March 31, 2020. In conclusion, we will continue executing on our strategy and winning market share. I will now open the phone lines for questions.

Operator

Thank you. And our first question comes from Jeremy Kwan with Stifel, Nicolaus. Your line is open.

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Jeremy KwanAnalyst

Yes, good afternoon. Congrats on the strong results and outlook, especially in a challenging environment. I guess my first question regarding - you mentioned about not having sufficient inventory in hand to meet all the immediate demand you’re seeing, is there a way you can kind of quantify what’s kind of being left on the table? And is there a chance to capture this maybe later on in the coming quarters?

MH
Michael HsingCEO

All these products, which are designed, our customers have upside. Many of them have told us so. We believe these are difficult sockets to change, and they do not change month by month, and those volumes will still be with us.

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Bernie BlegenCFO

Yes. We’re not trying to identify a risk factor with regard to our ability to execute against expectations. We’re just saying that it would be imprudent for us to allow our investors to believe that there is even more upside beyond that because we may have some constraints with regard to inventory.

MH
Michael HsingCEO

Yes, our inventories involve a few thousand products. It is very difficult to predict which ones to ramp ahead of others. And so that causes a lot of problems for our planning and also for our shipments. We’re now doing partial shipments.

JK
Jeremy KwanAnalyst

Great. Thank you very much. That’s helpful clarity. And I guess my follow-up would be, Bernie, you mentioned entering the high-performance analog market with the high-precision data acquisition group, can you give us more details about this, maybe you or Michael, what initial application is going to go after first and how do you plan to compete in this market and maybe your sales strategy? Do you need more distribution partners or is this something that you can leverage your e-commerce platform? Thank you.

MH
Michael HsingCEO

The initial one is in these initial market segments, there in the communications as well as medical applications. And we don’t have a long-term strategy. I think through our Internet - through our e-commerce, we tried to push everything through e-commerce.

JK
Jeremy KwanAnalyst

Thank you very much.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Alessandra Vecchi with William Blair. Your line is open.

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AV
Alessandra VecchiAnalyst

Thanks. Congratulations on a wonderful quarter. Just on 48-volt, you talked about the new product introductions in 2019 and I believe you guys said on the last earnings call that you’d be seeing some revenue in Q1. Can you just update us on that and how we should think about the total revenue opportunity there as we look into 2020 and 2021?

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Bernie BlegenCFO

Yes. I don’t think that we guided, per se, on giving an exact revenue outlook for Q1 with the beginning of 48-volt. But we said that it would be in 2020. And right now, everything is tracking pretty much along our expectations. So what’s really exciting is that I think that it validates our strategy to have gone into 48-volt and to enjoy and participate in many of the opportunities there it brings us.

AV
Alessandra VecchiAnalyst

Okay. That’s helpful. And then I apologize if I missed it, but Bernie, did you give us a little bit of clarity in terms of by segment in Q1? What segments maybe you thought would be the strongest sequentially?

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Bernie BlegenCFO

Yes. Again, I think the broader question there is what’s going to be the revenue drivers looking like. And at this point, I think it’s a continuation of more of what we’ve been seeing recently. So for example, the compute and storage market is very well positioned for growth in the early part of the year. Likewise, communication, we believe that there’s also a significant opportunity for growth, particularly in Q1. When you look at - oh, I should make 1 asterisk on computing, notebooks, which are reported in computing, are seasonal. And coming out of Q4, they tend to have a seasonal decline, which we are anticipating as well. But when you look at storage or cloud computing, I think that they are very well positioned. And then after that, if you look at consumer again, that still has not hit a steady state or show any signs of being healthy. And again, consumer is also very seasonal, and it’s normal to expect a decline from Q4 to Q1. And then when you look at Industrial, a lot of that revenue performance in the second half of the year reflected inventory builds on the part of certain of our customers who were anticipating trade restrictions. And so that area may fall off in Q1. In automotive, that tends to go either on the plateau or when it fits designed in your new revenue opportunity, there’s a spike.

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Alessandra VecchiAnalyst

Okay. Just on automotive, some other semiconductor companies have alluded to sort of a bottoming out improvement there. So are you seeing a similar situation? I know it depends on what model you’re designed into and whatnot, but do you feel like the worst is behind you?

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Michael HsingCEO

I think that we are too small to call the industry. We are growing to all these Greenfield markets and the leasing that we say isn’t the end of the world. All this is the beginning of the world. It’s the beginning for MPS.

AV
Alessandra VecchiAnalyst

Understood. That’s it from me. Thank you so much.

MH
Michael HsingCEO

Thanks, Aless.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Michelle Waller with Needham. Your line is open.

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Michelle WallerAnalyst

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question and congrats on the results. So I guess the first one for me, in terms of the next-generation gaming consoles launching in 2020, could you guys walk us through what the ramp is expected to look like for MPS? Is it only a back-half driver or do you think you’ll see some meaningful uptick in 2Q? And from a gross margin perspective, how should we think about the impact of corporate gross margins during that ramp?

MH
Michael HsingCEO

Are you talking about gaming, particularly?

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Michelle WallerAnalyst

Yes. And specifically, yes.

MH
Michael HsingCEO

Gaming is not a major part of our business. And that is all into one product, is in the consumer segment, and it is in a share, the similar CPU co-power. And so the business is very lumpy. But we treat this very opportunistically. Our customers really like our solutions, and we will support them when the demands come.

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Bernie BlegenCFO

And we probably expect to see a similar ramp as we did in 2017.

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Michelle WallerAnalyst

Okay. That’s helpful. And then for my follow-up, you guys mentioned previously that your dollar content opportunity with the Whitley server platform increased to $70 from $50 in the Purley platform. I’m just trying to figure out - I know this is a bit further off, but with the equal stream platform that’s expected to launch in 2021, how do you guys see your dollar content opportunity changing generation over generation? Or just any color you can give there would be helpful.

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Bernie BlegenCFO

On the dollar content, we don’t - we haven’t seen an opportunity to expand beyond what we currently are getting on the V14. But then again, the specs are not entirely finalized. So if it turns out that the space of the power requirements are materially different from what V14 is, there might be an opportunity for pricing leverage.

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Michelle WallerAnalyst

Okay. Thank you. That’s all from me.

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Bernie BlegenCFO

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Matt Ramsay with Cowen. Your line is open.

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Josh BuchalterAnalyst

Hey, guys. This is Josh Buchalter on behalf of Matt. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the results in a tough environment. I guess the first question was, if we think about your inventory commentary from last quarter, are there any couple of items in particular that you could point to that drove the change in your thought process from Q3 to Q4? And then also, is there any margin impact from bringing on the new 12-inch fab and your sort of what sounds like capacity constraints?

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Michael HsingCEO

Well, we’re talking about margins. And if you were to bring up a 12-inch fab, okay, every time we’re bringing up a fab it is not going to have an immediate impact for the margin improvement. All these products that come from new fab take one or two years to ramp up. In terms of which segments of where our inventory is tight, it’s across the board.

JB
Josh BuchalterAnalyst

Got it. Thank you. And I guess, in the beginning of the call, you mentioned several tier 1 companies launching with your design wins. Were there any, I guess, if you could rank order one or two that you’re most excited about heading into 2020? Thank you and congrats again.

MH
Michael HsingCEO

These are, we said it and Bernie said at the beginning of the call, these are the few things that we achieved in 2019, and all of these will generate significant revenue in 2020.

BB
Bernie BlegenCFO

Yes, and it’s not restricted to any one end market segment, it’s actually very broad-based to the level of customer engagement that we’re receiving from Tier 1s.

JB
Josh BuchalterAnalyst

Thanks, guys.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Rick Schafer with Oppenheimer. Your line is open.

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Rick SchaferAnalyst

Yes. Hi, guys. I’ll echo everyone else’s congratulations on another monolithic quarter, another great quarter. So good job. I just had a maybe question. On Coronavirus, since it’s a topic, is your - you guys have three of your four production foundries in China, so I’m just curious, Michael or Bernie, if you’re seeing any signs of supply disruption? Or do you expect to see any signs once guys just start coming back to work next week.

MH
Michael HsingCEO

All the fabs, as far as we know, they are all open. They are all operating. And they’re in really tight conditions. And all the assemblies, same things. And so far, it hasn’t disrupted our supply.

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Bernie BlegenCFO

And again, Rick, it’s a very early stage to fully appreciate or understand how any of our businesses will be impacted.

RS
Rick SchaferAnalyst

Sure, sure. I understand. So maybe a follow-up, if I could. Just on your auto bus, I know you guys secured one of the, I think, the number 1 Tier 1 auto supplier a few months ago. I’m just curious where we stand on securing the number 2 Tier 1 auto supplier. And as part of your answer, I’m curious, I mean, from after you signed number 1, have you seen - is it too soon to have seen any noticeable uptick in design activity, and maybe also just a comment on China in general. I know it was kind of a slow year for China auto, they basically canceled the design here, I think, last year or the model year. I’m curious kind of what your expectations are for China this year, what you’re seeing? Thanks.

MH
Michael HsingCEO

Overall, everybody told us that it would not be a good year. But from the MPS side, we are looking pretty good in fall of 2020. And we are deeply engaged with number 1, number 2 and number 3, and we see all the activities that we can handle. Now we have to pick and choose.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Ross Seymore with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

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Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Hi, guys. This is Melissa on behalf of Ross. Congratulations on the really solid quarter. I know you guys don’t guide out more than one quarter. But I guess, from a high-level perspective, now that we’re coming out of this industry downturn, what are your expectations for returning to either seasonal or even above seasonal growth? Is this moderated by what - by your inventory constraints? And how are you thinking about the slip of the recovery from here?

MH
Michael HsingCEO

Well, you call it industrial out of the downturn came. And as you said, as Bernie said earlier, we will grow above the industrial market by about 10% to 15% to 20%. So we are committed to that.

UA
Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Okay, great. And then does the inventory constraints, is that kind of restricting that growth prospect? Or do you think you can still hit that target?

MH
Michael HsingCEO

We tried to - as we said earlier, we cannot maximize it because our customers are pulling in those requirements. And so we have to keep them on the line, and we have partial shipments. Our inventory is at a very low stage.

UA
Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Got it. And then the last one for me is your computing and storage segment has been driving really strong growth, and I was just curious when you look into 2020, how are you thinking about the shape of that business? And in particular, are you worried about any risk of inventory digestion of lumpy buying, or do you think that it’s really strong secular growth that’s driving the strength?

BB
Bernie BlegenCFO

Yes. When you look at 2019, I think that the first half of the year was an anomaly where the hyperscales were trying to digest excess capacity. And so I see, with the V14 having just recently rolled out, a return to a more normalized adoption process.

UA
Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Okay. Thank you, guys.

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from Tore Svanberg with Stifel. Your line is open.

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Tore SvanbergAnalyst

Yes, thank you. And congratulations again. Very nice results. First question on inventory being tight. I mean you’re at 156 days. So how tight is it? I mean I know you want to run a little bit higher than that, but it doesn’t seem alarmingly low either. So maybe you could just elaborate a little bit on that.

BB
Bernie BlegenCFO

I think we’re at 155 days right now. And if you were to look at sort of the industry standards, we’re probably at about the midpoint of what people might expect. There are two things though that differentiate us. The first is the diversity of the number of products that we maintain and then the second is that we build inventories ahead of when we sell them. And as a result, because we’re growing at a rate that is 10 to 15 percentage points faster than the industry, that puts more pressure on us to have more inventory available at an earlier stage. So it’s as much a risk management decision with the level we carry. And I think we’ve said previously that we’re more comfortable with inventory levels between about 160 and 180 days.

MH
Michael HsingCEO

Yes. For stagnant companies, inventory is very predictable. For growth companies and in particular for MPS, we have hundreds of projects that are taking off. Some of those ramp faster, others ramp slower. It's very difficult to predict how to pick those.

TS
Tore SvanbergAnalyst

Well, it’s a good problem to have. Second question, and I always ask you this, Michael, if you could give us an update on your e-commerce business. We’ve noticed that the website keeps changing. So if you could update on those, that would be great? Thanks.

MH
Michael HsingCEO

The e-commerce side, other than the MPS website, we’re still learning from that. But our product being sold to the third-party e-commerce site is doing really well. As a result of our learning, we’re changing it. And so far, we can’t give you the significant number yet, but we believe by the end of 2020, it will move some needles.

TS
Tore SvanbergAnalyst

Great. So at least, you’re now seeing that the traffic really moving in the right direction, it sounds like.

MH
Michael HsingCEO

Yes. The key is the traffic. But yes, your key is the traffic. So we can - I can give you analogies in, we believe again, a year ago, that there’s a lot of fishing in the Pacific Ocean. So we dropped the fish in the middle of the Pacific Ocean, we didn’t comment anything. Our learning has been what kind of fish, where are they? We are a lot more targeted now.

TS
Tore SvanbergAnalyst

Very good. Make sure you have enough data. Last question on the eMotion business, if you could also update us there, including, obviously, your system-level motor products?

MH
Michael HsingCEO

Yes. So the model is not just selling the models motors and is intended to provide convenience for our customers for the initial ramp. So we see quite a few orders from our Internet. Those customers are going very slow. Their project takes a year and a half years to ramp. It’s not like they’re selling a silicon piece, usually models for the guys that takes about three or four years. In terms of eMotion, I don’t know, maybe Bernie can say that we see more than $20 million last year, and this year, we’re going to keep up a similar growth rate. So we’ll be certainly a $30 million or $40 million business in the next few years.

BB
Bernie BlegenCFO

I think that we’re comfortable in saying that it can be a $30 million or $40 million business here in the next few years. However, Michael makes a very good point about the length of time between adoption and when you actually generate revenue; many of those applications almost have characteristics similar to automotive.

TS
Tore SvanbergAnalyst

Very good. Congratulations again.

BB
Bernie BlegenCFO

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And I’m showing no further questions at this time. I’d like to turn the call back to Bernie Blegen for any closing remarks.

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Bernie BlegenCFO

Thank you. I’d like to thank you all for joining us for this conference call and look forward to talking to you again during our first quarter 2020 conference call, which will likely be in April. Thank you, and have a nice day.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.

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