Starbucks Corp
Since 1971, Starbucks Coffee Company has been committed to ethically sourcing and roasting high-quality arabica coffee. Today, with more than 40,000 stores worldwide, the company is the premier roaster and retailer of specialty coffee in the world. Through our unwavering commitment to excellence and our guiding principles, we bring the unique Starbucks Experience to life for every customer through every cup.
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30.9% overvaluedStarbucks Corp (SBUX) — Q1 2025 Earnings Call Transcript
Operator
Good afternoon. My name is Diego, and I will be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to Starbucks' First Quarter Fiscal Year 2025 Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call over to Tiffany Willis, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Ms. Willis, you may now begin your conference.
Thank you, Diego, and good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us today to discuss Starbucks' first quarter fiscal year 2025 results. Today's discussion will be led by Brian Niccol, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Rachel Ruggeri, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. This conference call will include forward-looking statements, which are subject to various risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ from these statements. Any such statement should be considered in conjunction with cautionary statements in our earnings release and risk factors discussed in our filings with the SEC, including our latest annual report on Form 10-K and quarterly report on Form 10-Q. Starbucks assumes no obligation to update any of these forward-looking statements or information. Revenue, operating margin and EPS growth metrics on today's call are measured in constant currency and represent non-GAAP measures. Please refer to the earnings release and our website at investor.starbucks.com to find reconciliations of these non-GAAP measures to the corresponding GAAP measures. This conference call is being webcast, and an archive of the webcast will be available on our website through Friday, March 14, 2025. Also, for your calendar planning purposes, please note that our second quarter fiscal year 2025 earnings conference call has been tentatively scheduled for Tuesday, April 29, 2025. And with that, I'll now turn the call over to Brian.
Good afternoon, and thank you for joining today. Over the past four months, we've been focused on getting Back to Starbucks and those things that have always set us apart, a welcoming coffeehouse where people gather and where we serve the finest coffee, handcrafted by our skilled baristas. We believe it's the fundamental change in strategy we need to solve our underlying issues, restore confidence in our brand and return the business to sustainable long-term growth. While we're only one quarter into our turnaround, we're moving quickly to act on the "Back to Starbucks" efforts we outlined on our last call. And to date, we've seen a positive response. As Rachel will outline in greater detail, our financial performance met our expectations for the quarter, with a total company revenue of $9.4 billion, a global comparable store sales decline of 4%, a global operating margin of 11.9%, and overall earnings per share of $0.69. To be clear, these results have room for improvement, but I'm confident the disciplined investments we're making in labor, marketing, technology, and stores this fiscal year will help stabilize the business and position Starbucks for future growth. We're also working to change the role, structure and size of our support teams to improve efficiency and accountability. This will ensure we deliver on our commitments and our work to get Back to Starbucks. Let me share with you some of the progress we've made through the quarter and what we're focusing on next. Our path "Back to Starbucks" in the US is driven by four core initiatives: reintroduce Starbucks to the world, deliver the customer experience to win the morning, reestablish Starbucks as the community coffeehouse, and ensure Starbucks is the unrivaled best job in retail, recognizing our success starts and ends with our green apron partners. During the quarter, we moved quickly to refocus the business, our mission and our marketing to align with our core identity as the premier purveyor of the finest coffee in the world. We started by reducing the frequency of discount-driven offers, resulting in 40% fewer discounted transactions year-over-year. We also removed the extra charge for non-dairy milk, customizations and identified several other steps we can take to make our pricing architecture more transparent for customers. And just this week, we launched a new Coffee Forward US marketing campaign, reintroducing the brand to a broader customer audience. Our work to reintroduce our brand is just beginning, but our core business is already strengthening, demonstrating that when we talk about our business, customers respond. Through the quarter, we saw a shift in our sales mix towards coffee and Espresso-based beverages, which over-delivered and compensated for lower-than-expected performance across our holiday promotions. We've been focused on simplifying our menu to position partners for success, improve consistency, drive customer satisfaction, and enhance our economics. As part of this work, we made some late simplifications to our holiday product lineup and believe we have more opportunity ahead as we follow a disciplined stage gate process to innovate and bring to market fewer, better beverage and food offerings that reflect our premium positioning. In the coming months, you'll see us begin to optimize our menu offerings, resulting in roughly 30% reduction in both beverages and food SKUs by the end of fiscal year 2025. As we do, we'll work to lead this market with breakthrough beverage and food innovation. We'll do this by being responsive to customer trends and their changing preferences. We'll rely on our highly-engaged green apron partners for inspiration like we did with our Lavender lineup last year and we'll be more responsive and tuned in to cultural moments like we did with the Dubai matcha. We also saw continued improvement in comp trends driven by "Back to Starbucks" efforts launched during Q1. Non-Starbucks Rewards customer traffic grew quarter-over-quarter. Starbucks Rewards membership and spend grew both quarter-over-quarter and year-over-year. And price parity for non-dairy milk customizations brought back lapsed Starbucks Rewards members. Our US category share among QSRs also recovered in Q1 following two quarters of decline. These things tell us our actions are resonating with customers. Progress like this shows me that the Starbucks brand is still resilient and strong and that we have significant future potential. More importantly, it shows that we can sell more of our core beverages simply by demonstrating our premium value. A key part of the premium value we provide is quickly and consistently delivering a high-quality handcrafted beverage to customers. The handoff from our barista to the customer is our brand moment of truth, and we've been working hard to get that moment right. Through the quarter, we've continued to test and learn as we position the business to achieve our four-minute throughput goal with a moment of connection. It's become clear through our pilot work that order sequencing creates more of a bottleneck than capacity. In short, investments in staffing and deployment, processes and algorithm technology demonstrate the greatest opportunity to deliver a four-minute wait time in most of our cafes. As a result, we've started to segment stores by transaction volume and are now targeting installation of siren equipment only in our highest-quartile stores where it is needed to meet our throughput expectations. We've also invested additional coverage hours across more than 3,000 US company-operated stores through precision scheduling, introduced new brewed coffee and tea routines and simplified beverage builds. And soon, we'll launch a pilot across 700 stores, looking at staffing levels to improve our green apron partners' ability to serve the world's finest coffee with a moment of connection. We'll use learnings from this to inform the future investments we need to make in store coverage hours to deliver both an exceptional partner and customer experience and further differentiate our brand. Looking forward, we're beginning to pilot a new in-store prioritization algorithm and are exploring other technology investments to improve order sequencing and our efficiency behind the counter. We're also progressing efforts that build on the strength and popularity of the Starbucks app. This includes development of a capacity-based time slot model that allows customers to schedule mobile orders and a midyear update that will simplify customization options, improve upfront pricing, and provide real-time price changes as customers customize beverages. Lastly, we're planning to fully deploy digital menu boards in cafes across our US company-owned stores over the next 18 months to make our offerings more easily understood and to better show customization add-ons. We also made strides to reestablish Starbucks as the community coffeehouse. To make it easier for our customers to enjoy a cup of coffee their way, condiment bars will be back in all our US company-owned stores by the end of the week. We reintroduced ceramic mugs and handwritten notes on cups to better connect with customers and elevate the cafe experience for those who choose to stay and work. We rolled out new cafe service standards and expanded free refills on hot and iced brewed coffee and tea to non-Starbucks Rewards customers at participating stores. We announced a new coffeehouse code of conduct to prioritize our spaces for customers and we continue to target a full rollout of Clover Vertica brewers by the end of fiscal year 2025. We're taking a hard look at our store portfolio as well. In the US alone, we still see the potential to double our store count while improving the overall health of our portfolio. We'll do this through a strong store renovation program, new store builds and store closures. And we're going to make sure our stores are warm and welcoming with work continuing on store design standards and cost to build. Early customer and partner reactions to our plans show we've got the right strategy, both the reintroduction of coffee condiment bars and the expansion of free refills were identified as top drivers of purchase intent. In the coming months, our teams will be focused on refreshing our menu boards and improving cafe merchandising to reflect the coffeehouse feel and better showcase our simplified menu. We'll start an expanded test of risers and shelves at the point of handoff to help separate the cafe and mobile order experience and we'll begin to scale projects to increase and diversify seating across more of our cafes. To deliver a great customer experience, we also have to deliver a great partner experience. It's why everything we do starts and ends with our green apron partners and why I'm committed to ensuring Starbucks is the unrivaled best job in retail. In the past quarter, we more than doubled paid parental leave for eligible US store partners and we made a new commitment to promote from within 90% of retail leadership roles over the next three years, helping thousands of partners grow their careers and their incomes. As a result, through the quarter, shift completion, average hours per partner, partner retention, and hourly partner engagement improved. Looking forward, we'll continue to prioritize efforts that help our green apron partners succeed both at work through continued improvements to our staffing model and in their lives through industry-leading benefits, competitive pay, and careers that create lasting economic opportunity. Turning to international, I've had a chance to see our operations in Italy, Japan and South Korea and meet with our international licensed business partners over the past few months. As I shared with them, many of our international markets set an example for the experience we aim to deliver in the US and present a great long-term opportunity, particularly as we continue to grow our store footprint and recover our business in certain challenged markets. Just last week, I also made my first market visit to China. While there, I saw firsthand the strength of our brand, our team and the premium customer experience we offer. I saw how dynamic the market is and the opportunities ahead. I also saw several near-term changes we can make to stabilize and strengthen our business while continuing to explore strategic partnerships to grow in China. We're processing these learnings and we will share more as we do. From my time there, I also believe there are several lessons we can learn from the strength of our supply chain in China to realize opportunities in our North American business. If you take one thing from today's call, let it be this; despite near-term challenges, we have significant strengths and a clear plan. The response we've seen since fundamentally shifting our strategy to get back to Starbucks gives us confidence we're on the track to turn the business around. We are where we want to be one quarter in, but much of our work is just beginning. As we continue to learn and implement our "Back to Starbucks" plan, I believe we'll make it easier to be a customer and, in turn, I believe they'll visit more often. We'll also find more ways to set our partners up for success, so they're able to deliver a great customer experience every time. In doing so, we'll reinvigorate our brand, drive stronger financial returns and return Starbucks to growth. There is important work ahead and I look forward to bringing you along. With that, I'll turn it over to Rachel.
Thank you, Brian, and good afternoon, everyone. As Brian shared, we're pleased with our start to fiscal year 2025 with our Q1 performance meeting our expectations. Our "Back to Starbucks" strategy has already driven early progress, including gradual top-line improvement, giving us confidence that we're focused on the right priorities. Our Q1 consolidated revenue was $9.4 billion, flat to the prior year, reflecting 7% net new company-operated store growth over the past 12 months, offset by a 4% decline in comparable store sales. Our global comparable store sales decline was primarily due to a 4% decline in the US. US comparable store sales improved sequentially throughout the quarter, most evident in the morning daypart as non-Starbucks Rewards customers grew from our strategic shift to broader marketing. Our ticket growth in the US remained strong at 4% due to the benefits from the prior year pricing, attach and fewer discounts. These drivers more than offset mix shift into lower-priced beverages and removal of the extra charge for non-dairy milk customizations. Turning to store growth. We opened 377 net new stores globally in Q1, and in the US, our new company-operated stores contributed nearly 90% revenue incrementality to the trade areas. As we continue to evaluate our stores globally, we will make disciplined decisions to further strengthen and grow our portfolio, reestablishing ourselves as the community coffeehouse as we drive sustainable long-term growth. Shifting to margin. Our Q1 consolidated operating margin was 11.9%, contracting 380 basis points from the prior year, primarily driven by deleverage and the investments in support of Back to Starbucks, including store partner wages, benefits and hours and the removal of the extra charge for non-dairy milk customizations. The contraction was partially offset by annualization of pricing and out-of-store efficiencies, largely within our supply chain. Given the Q1 margin contraction, I want to provide additional insight into the investments as well as the offsetting efficiencies. Let me start with investments, a critical initial step for the "Back to Starbucks" turnaround. As Brian shared, to deliver our customer experience to win the morning, we invested additional coverage hours to support the service model of a four-minute wait time and enabling our hospitality point of difference, moments of connection. These additional hours, coupled with wage and benefit rate increases, resulted in 180 basis point margin pressure in the North America segment, excluding labor productivity. As we focus on delivering the customer experience, we continue to evaluate labor needs across our store portfolio as we surgically optimize staffing levels. As you likely saw, we dialed up our marketing communication, including linear TV media, as part of our priority to reintroduce Starbucks to the world. We were pleased with the positive customer reactions and improvement in our comp trend. Overall promotional spend, which is inclusive of marketing spend and discounts, remains largely neutral relative to prior year. To improve value perception, we also removed the extra charge for non-dairy milk customizations, an impact of 60 basis points on the segment's margin in the quarter. Following this announcement, we saw strong increases in customer interactions with our brand, as Brian shared previously. Additionally, non-dairy customizations grew mid-single-digits year-over-year, off a double-digit decline in the prior year. Collectively, these targeted investments are showing signs of early progress. While there is a near-term impact on margin, we expect that through our disciplined approach to test and learn, we will make the right investments to drive long-term growth. Importantly, we also continue focusing on driving efficiencies across the company as we balance our investments while driving margin expansion over time. In Q1, our in-store efficiencies increased as a result of improved partner stability as we focus on the "Back to Starbucks" strategy. Out of store, we further optimized our supply chain and recalibrated rates, resulting in meaningful sourcing efficiencies in the quarter. Collectively, in and out of store efficiencies yield savings of approximately 150 basis points in Q1. We will continue to secure additional efficiencies to help fund investments as we leverage a disciplined and data-driven approach to our turnaround. Shifting from efficiencies to G&A. For fiscal year 2025, we expect our G&A percentage to be higher than prior year as we lap lower performance-based compensation. Specific to Q2, we expect G&A as a percentage of revenue to spike as we transform the support organization, incurring near-term restructuring charges, inclusive of severance pay and related benefits. At this time, we're still working through the impact of this transformation work and we'll share more details regarding the financial impact during our Q2 earnings call. Q1 EPS was $0.69, down 22% from the prior year, primarily reflecting the impact of deleverage and heightened investments. Q1 EPS also included a $0.02 year-over-year benefit from a lower effective tax rate, primarily driven by a discrete item, which is not expected in the balance of this fiscal year. Now, looking at our full fiscal year 2025, although our guidance is suspended, I'd like to provide some insights into our quarterly earnings shape. EPS is expected to be the lowest in Q2 on an absolute basis due to seasonality, the organizational restructuring I just spoke about, and elevated investments with year-over-year pressure also intensifying in the quarter. EPS is then expected to improve in the latter half of the fiscal year 2025, both sequentially and year-over-year. Some additional aspects to consider as you think about our full year 2025 include the coffee landscape and our Channel Development segment. In regards to the coffee landscape and the trajectory of seed price, given our overall practices and hedging strategy, our year-over-year coffee price impact was minimal in Q1. We currently estimate Q2 EPS to be pressured by approximately $0.01 net of hedge gains. As a reminder, our total cost of green coffee is typically limited to 10% to 15% of our product and distribution costs. In addition to the direct coffee pressure on EPS I just mentioned, seed price volatility also impacts our Channel Development segment and in a more meaningful way. Although we can pass this cost to our business partners, higher prices to an already pressured consumer will likely impact our segment volumes and ultimate revenue and profitability. Finally, our balance sheet remains strong and we remain committed to our BBB plus credit rating. We continue to prioritize shareholder value through dividends, providing a predictable return of capital while we turn around our business. In closing, we are encouraged by our Q1 results, which demonstrated the effectiveness of our "Back to Starbucks" strategy. Although we are in the beginning chapter and have much more work ahead of us, my thanks goes to our incredible partners across the globe who are unwavering in their commitment to bring our strategy to life. And with that, Brian and I are happy to take your questions. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Your first question comes from David Tarantino with Baird. Please state your question.
Hi, good evening. My question, Brian, is on the sales improvement you saw through the quarter. I believe Rachel mentioned that comps improved as the quarter progressed. I guess, can you maybe talk about whether that was comparison-related, or do you think you're seeing some underlying structural improvement? And if you're seeing some structural improvement, what do you think is driving that in terms of kind of the key components of your plan? Is it whether it be advertising or store operations? Maybe you can frame that up for us. Thanks.
Yeah. And yes, as Rachel said, the good news is we did see kind of sequential improvement throughout the quarter. And I think I mentioned this in some of my remarks, the thing that was nice to see is as we stepped away from discounting and went into more broad-based marketing efforts to demonstrate the craft of our coffee as well as the experience or the premium experience you get from Starbucks, we saw non-rewards customers respond with more traffic and more transactions, which was really nice to see how that progressed kind of quarter-to-quarter. The other thing too that was nice to see is we saw our morning daypart continue to show improvements quarter-to-quarter as well. And so, I think it's a combination of shifting the approach as far as reaching both rewards and non-rewards customers with, I think a compelling message around the craft and the quality of our coffee and our experience. And then also, I think our partners in the stores are really embracing getting back to Starbucks and enjoying making the espresso drinks and providing people that craft experience. And as you've seen even most recently, the new "Back to Starbucks" rollout that we've got in progress and I was in some stores even this morning, and the energy is really exciting to see both from our partners and our customers. Our customers are feeling the enhanced experience coming from our partners. So, definitely baby steps in both of these areas, but all moving in the right direction.
Operator
Thank you. Your next question comes from Andrew Charles with TD Cowen. Please state your question.
Great. Thanks. Brian, can you talk a little bit more about Tressie Lieberman's plan of attack to help build on the initial marketing work around reintroducing the brand? And curious, last year, it was disclosed about $600 million of advertising spend. What level can we think about for 2025, if you can comment on that as well?
Yeah. Look, what we're definitely doing right now is switching the dollars out of discounting into what I would call working dollars for the brands and the brand experience. And so, what you're going to continue to see is, you might have saw we just broke a new ad over the weekend, highlighting, I think a key point of difference for Starbucks, which is centered on this connection that our baristas and our green apron partners have with our customers. And one of the ways that comes through is writing on cups. And so, what I love about this is, look, we're taking these dollars, allocating it to talk about the brand experience, and it's in such a way where it's very executable for people to actually experience it through our partners in the stores. And so, you're going to continue to see us use these dollars to turn it into working dollars to drive towards a brand commitment, but then also an experience commitment where hopefully every time you come into a Starbucks, not only do you get your coffee or your drink, but you also get this connection. And that's what we're going to continue to do. I think we're still finalizing exactly what does that spend look like ongoing, but I like the transition that we've made and I'm optimistic about the campaign that we've just started because there's a lot of additional elements still to come.
The way to think about it too from a marketing as a percentage of revenue, we are increasing it. You could say close to doubling it, but we've reduced the discount. So, we've increased overall net revenue while we're putting it towards, as Brian said, the working dollars in marketing. So, it's neutral to the business overall, but you will see a shift in terms of how it shows up in the P&L and in the business.
Operator
Thank you. And your next question comes from Danilo Gargiulo with Bernstein. Please state your question.
Hi, thanks for the question. Brian, I was wondering if you can help us quantify the impact of the operational improvements that you're starting to see at Starbucks. Maybe specifically, if you can help us understand maybe what percentage of the stores are operating in line with the four-minute handover timeline that you are expecting from the stores? And what kind of comp differential do you see between the stores that are operating at the level of efficiency that you are expecting versus the ones that need some incremental time to transform? Thank you.
We have categorized our stores based on transaction volume and discovered that a significant challenge arises from our mobile ordering system lacking an effective sequencing process. This results in congestion at the counter, forcing our team to prioritize fulfilling drink and food orders during busy periods instead of providing a seamless customer experience. The positive aspect is that a large percentage of our stores are showing improved performance. In these locations, we observe that the connection with customers and the quality of service are better, and they experience fewer bottlenecks. Our goal is to eliminate these bottlenecks caused by overwhelming mobile orders that hinder our service quality. We’ve noticed improvements in performance as indicated by financial metrics and partner and customer satisfaction. However, we still need to establish a reliable way to measure these factors, which we are currently developing. I visited one of our stores this morning where we've initiated an algorithm aimed at streamlining the rush of mobile orders. This allows our teams to deliver meaningful interactions for customers both in the café, those placing mobile orders, and drive-thru customers. It's important to note that we are only two weeks into this initiative and currently implementing it in three stores, but we are already observing encouraging results in terms of financial performance and satisfaction levels among partners and customers.
Operator
Your next question comes from Sara Senatore with Bank of America. Please state your question.
Hi, thanks. Can you hear me?
Operator
We'll move on to the next question. Our next question comes from David Palmer with Evercore ISI. Please state your question.
Thanks. I wanted to ask about productivity. There was a prior belief that there might be a $4 billion productivity opportunity over the four years ending in 2028. That's a significant amount, which could provide 250 to 300 basis points of margin improvement before accounting for other investments, and it was primarily expected to be driven by COGS. Does Starbucks still see that kind of opportunity before considering the investments you might be making in the business?
David, this is Rachel. Thank you for your question. I want to emphasize that we are still focused on enhancing efficiencies, and we see ongoing opportunities both in our stores and in our supply chain, particularly in COGS. As I mentioned earlier, we achieved about 150 basis points of margin expansion this quarter due to these efficiencies. We believe this is a crucial aspect of our "Back to Starbucks" strategy, which will help us balance our upcoming investments and ultimately lead to margin growth over time. Regarding the $4 billion, we are still evaluating the appropriate level of efficiencies as we move forward, so I wouldn't commit to that figure. However, we will continue our efficiency efforts as we pursue margin expansion in the future.
Operator
Thank you. And our next question comes from Brian Harbour with Morgan Stanley. Please state your question.
Yeah. Thank you. Good afternoon. Just on some of the announcements you made about the support organization, you've also made some management changes. What needs to change there? I guess, how much do you expect that to change? And sort of related to that, Rachel, I understand the comments on G&A in 2Q. Is this something where you might expect some favorability as we get into 3Q, 4Q and you sort of start to see those changes take hold?
The purpose of the changes is to enhance accountability in our key business areas. We are establishing the role of a Chief Store Officer, whose main responsibility will be to drive excellence in our stores. Additionally, we are appointing a Chief Development Officer to ensure that we are developing the right sites, with the appropriate design and cost considerations, while maintaining clear oversight. Just as we aim to achieve accountability in our stores—where the core of the business takes place—we also want our support center to effectively and accountably assist the stores in their operations. This structural evolution is currently underway and will continue over the next few months. I'll let Rachel elaborate on the other aspects.
So, Brian, regarding your question about G&A and its impact, as we consider the full year, we anticipate seeing a spike in Q2, as I mentioned earlier, but we expected to start seeing some savings in Q4 related to that effort. It's important to note that we are lapping lower performance-based compensation this year, which will have a greater impact in Q3 and Q4. Overall, G&A this year will still be higher than the previous year as a percentage of revenue, primarily due to the lower-base performance compensation from last year. However, you can expect to see some benefits from the restructuring in Q4, and we believe this will drive leverage over time.
Operator
Thank you. Your next question comes from Chris O'Cull with Stifel. Please state your question.
Thanks. Brian, as we've thought about the business, our view has been that improving the partner experience is somewhat intertwined with improving the customer experience. Are there specific customer experience issues you believe the company can resolve that should also help improve the employee experience? And sort of related to this, when do you expect that the mobile ordering algorithm changes to be implemented?
I completely agree with you. Ensuring our partners succeed in every customer interaction leads to excellent experiences for our customers, which are closely linked. That's why it's crucial to nail those initial greetings and handoff moments. From what I've observed in the early stages of our pilot, two significant things are happening. First, our partners are now equipped to serve these craft drinks with a personal touch and at a speed that makes customers feel good about receiving their orders. They're working seamlessly because the algorithm takes the pressure off by organizing mobile orders that arrive out of sequence. It sequences those orders so that cafe orders can be fulfilled promptly and with a personal touch. The same applies to mobile orders, as our improved sequencing helps us serve drinks more efficiently when customers come in. We plan to expand the pilot further and test additional elements, including time slots and their effectiveness compared to changing promise times. Over the next few months, we aim to gather valuable insights that will help us determine the best timeline for rollout, though we don’t have an exact schedule yet.
Operator
Thank you. And your next question comes from Jeffrey Bernstein with Barclays. Please state your question.
Great. Thank you very much. Brian, I know comps always garner outsized attention and justifiably so, but just wanted to talk about unit growth for a moment. I know in the US, obviously, the unit growth could be a more consistent driver of top-line. And I think you said opportunity to double the store count in the US. I believe you were referring, I guess, to the company-operated system, which in the US is already pushing 10,000-plus. So, the doubling, I guess caught me by surprise that was above my expectation in terms of the total addressable market. I'm just wondering, as you think about that doubling, like what do you think is the rate of growth that's appropriate as you look to achieve that? Maybe how do you arrive at that doubling? And are there particular geographies or store types that have greater opportunity than others? Just curious how you think about that TAM in the US and that opportunity. Thank you.
Yeah. Look, one of the things I'm really excited about is our ability to execute a smaller format that still has a great seat, okay, and delivers the partner experience or the engine behind the counter, so that we can provide these craft drinks in a timely manner with that personal touch. And so, when you combine our ability to do the drive-thru, the cafe, the mobile ordering in small, medium, large kind of executions, it just starts to open up trade areas that you get really excited about. And we're having tremendous success in places like Texas or the Southeast. And as we continue to open stores in those areas, they open with great economics. And that's what gives us a lot of confidence versus there are other markets that, frankly, we have a lot of work to do on just resetting the estate so that we have the right mix of the small, medium, large and the right mix of the access points. So, the good news is the brand has a lot of flexibility in how we execute the experience and that's what gives us the confidence that we could double the store count. And then, obviously, we get the sequencing figured out on mobile ordering. I think that just frees us up to another degree that we still haven't totally comprehended, I guess.
Operator
Thank you. And your next question comes from John Ivankoe with JPMorgan. Please state your question.
There's been at least some conversation about perhaps limiting the menu in the morning, products that were really some of the high repeat products that would be focused on speed, accuracy, consistency, and maybe opening up the afternoon to products that were more differentiated and have more customization. So, I wanted to get your thought if that was a possibility of maybe having different offerings kind of in the AM and the PM at Starbucks. And secondly, and I think related to that, food warming cabinets does seem to be one of the "easiest" ways to speed up transaction times, specifically in the drive-thru. Could you give us an update on that element of siren specifically in terms of what you might expect the rollout to be?
Yeah. Thanks for the question. And look, that's one of the key pieces of driving our digital menu board execution is that does give us the flexibility to do the merchandising of kind of different food experiences or drink experiences in the afternoon versus the morning. And as I mentioned, I think, in my prepared remarks, we are dialing back the menu both in food and beverage to the tune of roughly 30% between now and the end of our fiscal year, which then frees us up, frankly, to make sure we've got what I would call the right food offerings in the morning. And then, also, we're looking at how do we provide the right kind of snack/food offerings as you get further into the day. And like I said, the digital menu boards allow us the flexibility then to merchandise accordingly. Regarding the hot hold equipment, what we find is, that's a great solution depending on the volume or transactions that we have in the store, regardless of whether there's a drive-thru or not. And so, you're right, obviously, if we had a hot hold, when the person just showed up to the order board, it could be much faster. But we find the trade-off in that hot hold versus just cooking it fresh to order, at those moments, it's not the right trade-off in investing in that type of equipment and also the experience that you get from it. So, right now, it's much more contingent upon the volume thresholds than it is moving speed along kind of for all day kind of experiences is the way I would describe it.
Operator
Thank you. And your next question comes from Katherine Griffin with Bank of America. Please state your question.
Hi, thanks. Can you hear me?
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Yeah.
Great. Okay. This is Katherine on behalf of Sara Senatore. So, earlier, I think, Rachel, you were talking about having less promotions as a positive impact on revenue. I think the goal from here is to move towards more of a traffic-driven same-store sales growth model, but we didn't see much of that this quarter. I think you mentioned that promotional transactions were 40% lower year-over-year, but can you quantify what the impact of that was on ticket? And was that because of fewer promotions? And then, I guess to the extent that you're encouraged by these results, is that what you're looking at? You're looking for more full-priced sales?
I would start by saying we're looking for a combination. Our rewards customers continue to be incredibly important, but we've recognized value in engaging all our customers. As we've moved from discounts to broader marketing strategies, we've been able to reach a wider customer base. This quarter, even though we are still in the early stages of our turnaround, we've seen positive signs of progress. As Brian mentioned, we experienced growth during the morning hours and among our entire customer base, with non-rewards customers showing quarter-over-quarter growth. Notably, their growth has reached levels comparable to about a year ago, which reinforces our confidence in our strategy. Regarding the impact on ticket sales, our ticket in North America showed just over 4% growth. This growth was supported by annualized pricing and fewer discounts, though it was somewhat balanced by a shift towards lower-priced items and our decision to reduce pricing. We view the adjustment in our discount strategy—not eliminating it but redefining it—as a way to enhance our ticket performance while also strengthening our overall value proposition as we engage a broader range of customers.
Operator
Thank you. And your next question comes from Peter Saleh with BTIG. Please state your question.
Great. Thanks for taking the question. Brian, I wanted to ask about the siren system. It sounds like you guys are only going to implement this in the highest quartile stores. Just curious, it sounds like it's a little bit of a difference from what you were initially expecting last quarter and I know it's early, but why don't the other stores, the remaining system need it? And can they get to the four-minute coffee time without this system? I'm just curious as to the timing on rolling this siren system out to the top-performing stores. Thanks.
It's true that we've learned a lot over the past few months, particularly as we focused on our four-minute solution and optimizing mobile ordering. What's clear is that in most of our stores, the issues are not due to a lack of capacity. Instead, it's about refining the process and utilizing an algorithm to manage the sequencing of mobile orders with cafe operations. While there is a point where higher volume necessitates additional equipment, this is only the case in the top quartile of stores. In the majority of our locations, by implementing the right processes and leveraging the algorithm, we can significantly enhance transaction throughput. This has been a key area of focus for us, and it highlights the benefits of our test-and-learn approach. As we gain insights, we adjust our strategies to ensure the best experience for both our partners and customers.
Operator
Thank you. Your next question comes from Christine Cho with Goldman Sachs. Please state your question.
Thank you. So, Brian, as you come into the coffee business with fresh pair of eyes, I was hoping to get your assessment on the challenges of drawing younger customers back into the stores. Do you still view this as an important strategic focus in your turnaround plans in North America? And if so, why do you think they're more hesitant? Is it premium prices? Is it that they're drinking less coffee in general? Are they attracted to more local coffeehouses? And more importantly, how do these observations inform your menu and marketing strategy going forward? Thank you.
We have discussed our goal of expanding our customer base, aiming to appeal to individuals from Gen Z to those over 50 and 60. We've found that younger customers are particularly drawn to our tea offerings, including our matcha latte. Recently, we introduced an unsweetened matcha that generated some social media excitement, especially with the Dubai matcha. We are observing positive trends across all age groups, and if we incorporate appealing flavors with our tea and refreshers, including iced coffee and cold brew, we're continuing to attract younger customers. Our strategy is to maintain a balanced approach rather than solely targeting young consumers and cold drinks. We aim to provide a solution for everyone seeking a third-place experience with custom handcrafted beverages, whether that’s through tea, cold drinks, or coffee, and we're seeing good progress in all these areas.
Operator
Thank you. Your next question comes from Lauren Silberman with Deutsche Bank. Please state your question.
Thank you very much. I wanted to ask about the partner investments. You added additional hours to 3,000 stores. You talked about the 700 store pilot. How are you assessing the current level of staffing across the US system and magnitude of investment that might still be necessary? And then, to what extent do you see opportunities to offset these investments through other areas as we think through run rate margins or full sales leverage be enough? Thank you.
Yeah. So, we put in the labor into those 3,000 stores from a precision standpoint, which was really just going back and looking at the labor tables to find out where potentially we just gotten too thin in certain areas. And so, we've implemented that. The good news is we've seen a positive response on that front. In regard to the pilot that we've just about to kick off, this is all about understanding the labor model necessary to have a great customer connection for our partners, deliver the speed and handcrafted experience we want. And what we know is, if we do all those things, our partners are excited about the job at hand and our customers love the experience that they receive, and we see that playing out as they'll come more often and it further differentiates the Starbucks business and the premium value that we provide. So, this is all about delivering the brand experience, reinforcing the premium experience that you get and doing things frankly that you really can't get anywhere else. When you get a handcrafted beverage with the personal connection that we provide, it's a huge point of difference. It's meaningful for our partners and it's meaningful for our customers. And just like recently with bringing back the writing on cups and bags, the feedback I've received from our partners is they love delighting their customers. And you know what I've heard from our customers is they love getting these little messages and moments of connection from our partners. So, this is back to the core of what makes Starbucks a unique experience. That's where we're working towards understanding what type of model do we need in order to deliver that experience. And then, obviously, we'll figure out how we can grow the business accordingly with that type of investment. As Rachel mentioned, longer term, what we're looking for is to grow margins from where we are today and grow the business from where we are today. The goal of doing all this isn't just to stand still. The goal in doing all this is put the brand on its front foot, establish the premium value, the premium experience that we provide and then use that as a launching point to grow the business both from transactions that then play out into obviously the economics.
If I may quickly add to that, Lauren, our labor investments are guided by a precision staffing model, which ensures they are targeted. While there is a short-term negative impact from these investments, they will contribute positively to the business in the long run by driving traffic. That's the reason behind these decisions. We are not applying this approach to every store; it's about addressing each store's specific needs based on the precision staffing model. The key to making this effective is to enhance traffic and ensure it improves over time. Additionally, while we anticipate these investments will lead to increased traffic from our collective efforts, it's also crucial to remember that we will continue seeking efficiencies within the business. We still have opportunities to balance these efforts, ultimately leading to margin expansion in the future.
Operator
Thank you. And your next question comes from Sharon Zackfia with William Blair. Please state your question.
Good afternoon. I guess as I think about the different channels that you have coming into North America, whether it's walk-in or drive-thru or mobile, what part of the equation is the furthest off from that four-minute total? And as you think about labor deployment, is there a way to kind of disaggregate the production of those channels as they come in to make it kind of more aligned?
Thank you for the question. Right now, the biggest challenge we face is that mobile ordering lacks sequencing; it operates on a first-in, first-out basis. In contrast, drive-thru works much more effectively with a controlled access point, including a queue that regulates flow, an order board for a friendly greeting, and a seamless handoff at the window. We have strong performance metrics and can manage window times well, although unexpected orders can slow us down temporarily. The main issue arises from mobile orders flooding in faster than customers can arrive to pick them up, leading to drinks piling up on the counter and diminishing the in-store experience. I was pleased to see that during a recent visit to one of our pilot stores, the counter was free from congestion. Customers dining in were able to enjoy their coffee in our ceramic mugs, creating a calm atmosphere. When mobile order customers came in, their drinks were ready and aligned with their arrival, enhancing the experience. We have implemented various improvements quickly, such as a coffee condiment bar that a customer recently praised for allowing her to customize her drink on her own. We also adjusted our brewed coffee service at the point of sale to facilitate faster transactions for customers in-store. Our goal is to eliminate congestion at the counter, which is currently exacerbated by the first-in, first-out nature of mobile orders. We're focused on solving this sequencing issue to create moments of connection within a four-minute timeframe or less. I was thrilled with the progress I observed, and many stores are successfully adapting. With further technological enhancements, I believe we're on track to return the brand to a premium, crafted experience that offers a unique and welcoming atmosphere for both customers and partners. Apologies for the lengthy response, but I'm excited about the insights we've gained over the past couple of months to address these challenges.
Operator
Your next question comes from Zach Fadem with Wells Fargo. Please state your question.
Hey, good afternoon. Brian, on the four minutes or less, how does in-store compare to MOP today? I think it was a few quarters ago, there was a high mix of customers that walked away from MOP orders due to high wait times. So, curious if you could talk about where that's trending today? And then, separately, just big picture, if you were able to get all transactions under four minutes, how would you frame the comp opportunity?
Yeah. Well, I would frame it as it would go up. And what I would also tell you is, the good news is we've got some really good learning that when the mobile order promise time gets beyond 15 minutes, that's when we have people kind of bailing. So, what we're testing is if you can do these time slots or if you can do these promised times in such a way where it doesn't get past, let's call it, 12 minutes to 15 minutes, then we know we're going to delight the mobile order customer, and then that frees up the capacity so that the in-store customer can have roughly a four-minute experience. And what we've seen over and over again is when that happens, now granted, this is my pilot store I'm going off of, everything starts to move in harmony, right? It's like the partners aren't rushed or overwhelmed. So, they have the ability to provide the experience, the connectivity that we want, the craft and the product that they want to provide. The customer feels like they're seeing. They're valued. They've been heard and they have a moment of connection. And that's what we want to ultimately deliver. That's frankly why Starbucks is Starbucks because in the end, you get this craft customized beverage in a reasonable amount of time in a way that actually has a touch of humanity that you frankly may not get in other points of your day. And as we improve that experience, it's really amazing to see just how the whole vibe of the coffeehouse just kind of calms down and you can kind of settle in. And the "for here" wear or the ceramic mugs and glasses and plates just add another level of like, hey, this is a spot where I can slow down, take a minute, whether I'm connecting with others or just taking a minute for myself, this is what occurs. And at the same token for the customer that needs to get in, get out, we're setting them up for success too, versus right now, the first-in, first-out mobile situation overwhelms the proposition at times. And when it happens, it's not good. And so, we got to figure out how we don't let those instances occur ongoing.
Operator
Thank you. And the last question comes from Jon Tower with Citi. You may ask your question.
Thank you for taking my questions. I have a quick clarification and then a question. Rachel, regarding the second quarter, are you suggesting that the EPS growth will be lower than the 23.5% decline we saw in the first quarter? That's my clarification. Now for my question, Brian, as the global leader in coffee sales with a broad footprint, you maintain premium pricing in many markets and menu items. How do you envision balancing the expansion of your store base in the US, potentially doubling to around 34,000 stores, with maintaining your current pricing and what that means for your pricing power in the future?
Yes, we expect that margin and earnings will be the lowest in Q2 on an absolute basis. This is due to seasonality, the organizational restructure, and elevated investments. As a result, year-over-year pressure on earnings will intensify, primarily driven by the organizational restructure. However, we anticipate gradual improvement in the second half of the year. Specifically for EPS, we expect to see improvement both sequentially and year-over-year during that period.
To address your second question, I believe innovation must be integral to our model. Fortunately, this has always been a hallmark of the Starbucks business. You will continue to see us innovate in our food and beverage offerings. We aim to ensure that our menu features the right pricing structure to cater to various occasions, whether in the morning or afternoon, and also considers different age groups. It's essential that we provide appealing flavors in our tea and coffee to meet diverse taste preferences across generations. Innovation will play a crucial role in keeping our brand and menu relevant. As we introduce new offerings, we will remain mindful of our pricing structure, ensuring that while we maintain a premium experience, we also remain accessible. You can expect us to utilize food and drink innovation to enhance our pricing strategies and address various occasions and tastes. Thank you for all the questions. I'm a couple of months into this role and I am genuinely inspired by the resilience and humanity of our brand, which resonates globally. Witnessing what our brand can do for our partners and customers across different regions, including coast-to-coast in the U.S., Asia, Europe, and Latin America, is truly motivating. I want to extend a heartfelt thank you to all our partners worldwide, as they make our brand exceptional. We are dedicated to establishing systems that ensure we continue to deliver a unique experience for everyone. In terms of Q1 2025, our results met expectations and showed progress, though there is still much work ahead. The good news is we understand the tasks at hand and are focused on building a Starbucks that we can all believe in, with a clear mission and purpose. We want to be well-loved not just for our coffee but for the warm and welcoming atmosphere along with our dedicated partners. A noteworthy aspect of our environment is a wall where one word that embodies Starbucks is written — that word is love. This reflects our commitment to our customers and partners. This is a pivotal year for us as we strive to get back to the core of what Starbucks represents. I believe that by doing this work, we will set the stage for significant future growth. We are progressing quickly and I am committed to executing our plans effectively. Once we achieve clarity, we will fulfill our commitments. In closing, I am confident that we will create economic opportunities for our partners, provide valuable experiences for our customers, and generate sustainable long-term returns for our shareholders. I am genuinely excited about what lies ahead for Starbucks. Thank you for joining us, and have a wonderful afternoon.
Operator
This concludes Starbucks' first quarter fiscal year 2025 conference call. You may now disconnect.