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Xylem (XYL) is a Fortune 500 global water solutions company that empowers customers and communities to build a more water-secure world. Our 23,000 diverse employees delivered revenue of $8.6 billion in 2024, optimizing water and resource management with innovation and expertise. Join us at www.xylem.com and Let’s Solve Water.

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Xylem Inc (XYL) — Q4 2022 Earnings Call Transcript

Apr 5, 202611 speakers7,461 words56 segments

Original transcript

Operator

Welcome to Xylem's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Earnings Conference Call. I would now like to turn the call over to Andrea van der Berg, Vice President of Investor Relations.

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Andrea van der BergVice President of Investor Relations

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Xylem's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2022 Earnings Call. With me today are Chief Executive Officer Patrick Decker, Chief Financial Officer Sandy Rowland, and Chief Operating Officer Matthew Pine. They will share their insights on Xylem's fourth quarter and full year 2022 results and discuss our outlook and guidance for 2023. After our prepared remarks, we will take questions regarding the information discussed on the call. As a reminder, this call and our webcast are accompanied by a slide presentation available in the Investors section of our website, www.xylem.com. A replay of today's call will be available until midnight, February 14. The replay number is +1 (800) 388-6509 or +1 (402) 220-1111. Additionally, the call can be accessed for playback via the Investors section of our website under the heading Investor Events. We will make some forward-looking statements today, including references to future events or developments we expect to occur. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, as described in Xylem's most recent annual report on Form 10-K and subsequent SEC filings. The company has no obligation to publicly update any forward-looking statements to reflect later events or circumstances, and actual results could differ materially from those anticipated. We have provided a summary of our key performance metrics, including both GAAP and non-GAAP metrics. For this call, all references will be on an organic and adjusted basis unless stated otherwise. The non-GAAP financials have been reconciled and are included in the Appendix of the presentation. Now I will turn the call over to our CEO, Patrick Decker.

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Patrick DeckerCEO

Thanks, Andrea, and good morning, everyone. As we indicated in our press release, the team delivered a very strong operational performance in the fourth quarter, exceeding our expectations across each segment and region. Resilient demand and strong backlog execution delivered 20% revenue growth for the quarter and healthy EBITDA margin expansion. That performance continued and built upon the team's solid delivery through the year, fueling healthy momentum coming into 2023. On a full year basis, revenue grew 11% and earnings per share grew 14%. Water Infrastructure grew 15% in the quarter on robust utilities and industrial demand in the U.S. and Western Europe, and the segment was up 12% for the full year. M&CS posted very strong fourth quarter performance. This segment was up 35% in the quarter on backlog execution from improved chip supply and continued strong demand, bringing full year growth to 8%. Applied Water grew 17% in the quarter and finished 2022 with 14% growth for the full year. Overall, higher volumes and positive price-cost performance drove significant EBITDA margin expansion in the quarter, up 250 basis points versus the same period a year ago. The team delivered that growth and margin performance on continuing resilient demand globally. We saw healthy orders growth sequentially. And for the full year, orders were up 4%, demonstrating the durability of our business. I am so proud of the team's performance in serving our customers and of their commitment to our purpose, solving water. The global trends driving investment in water systems continue to intensify. And as today's results demonstrate, we are already very strongly positioned to address them. That said, our recent agreement to acquire Evoqua announced 2 weeks ago will create a powerful platform to address the world's most critical water challenges with greater capability, depth, and scale. We've begun the important work of integration planning to set the combined company up for success and are well into the process of seeking the necessary approvals. Until the deal closes, which we anticipate will be midyear, we remain focused on delivering results to the stakeholders we serve today. On that stand-alone basis, we see continuing resilient demand in our largest end markets, particularly utilities, despite the possibility of macroeconomic softness. Execution of our backlogs with ongoing price-cost discipline, further supply chain improvements and a return to 100% free cash flow conversion. We expect that this will allow us to deliver 2023 organic revenue growth in the mid-single digits with solid EBITDA margin expansion, resulting in earnings per share between $3 and $3.25, up 10% versus last year at the midpoint of the range. We'll give more color on the outlook and guide in a moment, but first, I'll hand it over to Sandy to dig in briefly on the quarter's results before we look ahead at 2023.

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Sandy RowlandCFO

Thanks, Patrick. Please turn to Slide 5, and I'll cover our fourth quarter results. As Patrick highlighted, the team closed out a strong 2022 with another quarter of robust growth and margin expansion. Revenue grew 20% year-over-year, led by 26% growth in the U.S. and mid-teen growth in Western Europe and the emerging markets. In a moment, I'll give you a detailed performance by segment. But in short, utilities was up 24%, with strength in the U.S. driven by chip supply improvements in M&CS, and robust OpEx demand in Water Infrastructure. Industrial grew 15% on particularly strong demand in Western Europe and emerging markets and sustained strength in the U.S. Commercial was up 24%, mainly due to continued backlog execution in the U.S. and Western Europe. And residential was up 17%, driven by strength in emerging markets, partially offset by softness in the U.S. Compared to prior year, orders were down 3% in the quarter versus up 23% in the same period last year, but underlying demand remains resilient and in line sequentially. Water Infrastructure orders were up 13%, AWS down 6% and M&CS down 19%, following exceptionally high orders last year. However, M&CS orders were in line with the last quarter with a book-to-bill ratio of 1.1x. EBITDA margin was 18.7%, up 250 basis points from the prior year and up 40 basis points sequentially on strong volume and price, which more than offset inflation. Our EPS in the quarter was $0.92, up 46% year-over-year. Please turn to Slide 6, and I'll review the quarter's segment performance in a bit more detail. Water Infrastructure outperformed expectations with revenues up 15% in the quarter. Growth was robust across the portfolio, led by our wastewater utility business in the U.S. and industrial strength in emerging markets on continued dewatering demand. Geographically, the U.S. was up 26% with solid price realization on strong utilities OpEx demand and continued improvements in the supply chain. Foster Europe grew low double digits, driven by healthy industrial activity and emerging markets was also up low double digits, driven by dewatering demand in Latin America and Africa. Orders in the fourth quarter were up 13% with solid dewatering demand in emerging markets and continued utility strength in the U.S. EBITDA margin for the segment was up 80 basis points as price, net of inflation and volume conversion more than offset strategic investments. Please turn to Page 7. The Applied Water segment also exceeded expectations with fourth quarter revenues up 17% on strong price realization and backlog execution. Geographically, Western Europe was up over 20%, led by supply chain improvements and strong industrial and commercial demand. Emerging Markets was up mid-double digits on strong residential demand in the Middle East and India. The U.S. was up low double digits as supply chain improvements and price realization were partially offset by moderating residential volumes. Orders were down 6% in the quarter, with healthy industrial demand in the U.S. and Western Europe, offset by slowing U.S. residential orders. Segment EBITDA margin was up 270 basis points in the quarter. Margin expansion was driven by continued strong price realization, more than offsetting inflation and further supplemented by productivity savings. And now let's turn to Slide 8, and I'll cover our Measurement & Control Solutions business. M&CS revenue was up 35%, driven by recoveries in chip supply year-over-year and strong project execution in our test and measurement and pipeline assessment services businesses. Geographically, all regions were up more than 20%, led by U.S. growth of over 40%. M&CS orders were down 19% in the quarter, lapping a prior year compare of 28% orders growth during the peak of supply chain constraints. Demand for our AMI offering remains strong and our $2.1 billion backlog in M&CS is up 14% versus prior year. EBITDA margin for the segment was up 800 basis points versus the prior year and importantly, 130 basis points quarter sequentially. Strong volume conversion, coupled with price realization offsetting inflation, drove the expansion. And now let's turn to Slide 9 for an overview of cash flows and the company's financial position. In the fourth quarter, we generated free cash flow of $302 million. The team did a great job driving down working capital to hit our previous outlook of 80% free cash flow conversion for the year. While inventory remains elevated versus where we targeted to be longer term, as there still are pockets of the supply chain that necessitate the extra safety stock that we are carrying, our performance in Q4 gives us confidence in our path to return to 100% conversion in 2023. Our financial position remains robust as we exit the year with over $900 million in cash and available liquidity of $1.7 billion. And this is after paying down over $500 million of debt in December. Net debt-to-EBITDA leverage is 1.0x. Please turn to Slide 10, and I'll hand back to Patrick to look forward at 2023.

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Patrick DeckerCEO

Thanks, Sandy. The team did an excellent job delivering for our customers and communities in 2022. Their commitment and performance stood out during a tumultuous year of global economic and geopolitical uncertainty; lingering pandemic effects, especially in China; and a challenging supply chain environment. I'm very proud of everything the team achieved, and they are already carrying all that commercial momentum, operational discipline and resilience into 2023. As we look forward, we see continued healthy demand in our major markets despite the possibility of macroeconomic softness in certain sectors of the global economy. We expect that the essential nature of our solutions and the secular trends in water will continue to underpin demand in the attractive, stable end markets that we serve. And we expect to be even better able to serve that demand as supply chain friction continues to ease, and we can progressively work down our $3.6 billion backlogs. Looking ahead, we are advancing our strategic delivery of solutions to the acquisition of Evoqua. As I mentioned earlier, and as you would expect, until the deal closes, we are only providing organic guidance for Xylem on a stand-alone basis. But there's no doubt that the combination of Xylem's global utility scale and Evoqua's strength in attractive industrial end markets creates a powerful platform for growth. We expect significant revenue synergies in areas such as cross-selling of our respective utility and industrial portfolios in North America and growing Evoqua's international exposure via Xylem's global channels and customer relationships. Now those are just two of the areas where we see tremendous potential to add to the growth of the combined companies and expand our value to customers globally, especially in a number of the most attractive water end markets. But it's not the only inorganic move we're making to give customers more of what they need most. We've also taken a big step forward in helping them adopt the digital solutions they need to increase the resilience of communities' essential water infrastructure. In the shadow of our big announcement with Evoqua, another important partnership flew under the radar, one which will accelerate and enhance our ability to deliver more digital solutions to the utility customers around the world. Last quarter, we signed an exclusive commercial partnership with Idrica to make the adoption of digital technologies easier, faster, and more affordable for our utility customers. Headquartered in Valencia, Spain, Idrica is a leader in data management and analytics for water utilities. Idrica's GoAigua platform simplifies deployment and operation of new digital capabilities in any water utilities' operations. It gives them one secure integrated interface that brings together data capture, analytics and asset and process management onto one platform. Having been born out of a utility operator itself, the platform has the advantage of having been built by a utility for utilities, and it's already been deployed by over 300 customers around the world. Under the partnership, we will take a minority stake in Idrica and become the exclusive global distributor of their technology. Together, we will enable more utilities to harness the power of connected solutions. We're very excited about it, and we look forward to sharing more as the partnership progresses. We made one other important announcement recently. This one was just before the end of the year, appointing Matthew Pine as Chief Operating Officer. The move ensures that we have continuing focus on operational excellence from an enterprise perspective across all our business segments and regions to continue delivering on our commitment to faster-than-market revenue growth and margin expansion. At the same time, it's also freed up some of my capacity to deliver on Xylem's strategic evolution and capital deployment. In a moment, we'll turn the call back to Sandy for more detail on our guide. But first, I want to invite Matthew to say a few words on his key areas of focus in the new role and provide some color on our end market outlook. Matthew?

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Matthew PineCOO

Thanks, Patrick. We are very strongly positioned on intensifying trends with technology leadership in a large and growing installed base in attractive end markets. My focus as Chief Operating Officer is to further accelerate profitable growth and maximize the value we deliver to customers and communities around the world. Across the business, we continue to remove complexity, increase our local agility and unlock further scale efficiencies. This is all aimed, of course, at better serving our customers at the same time we deliver continuing margin expansion. We're driving this margin focus across the enterprise, taking particular aim at even more enhanced productivity and customer satisfaction. For example, in the M&CS segment, improvements in chip supply enabled us to build momentum, delivering the accretive backlog, we deploy resources back to productivity as well as new product introductions from innovation. Secondly, we continue to enhance our digital portfolio, as Patrick covered. Our customers need simple, integrated digital technologies that solve their problems cost-effectively. Our portfolio increasingly meets that demand with attractive growth and margin profiles. Lastly, our customers depend on Xylem as a trusted partner to deliver ongoing support. So our third operational focus is in standardizing our solutions and creating new offerings. This will take us deeper into our installed base with aftermarket sales and services. New offerings such as outcome-based solutions and condition-based maintenance will enable us to capture demand, address customers' needs and expand recurring revenues. It's no accident that there's a theme running through all three of these priorities. Each is about growing revenues and improving our margins by serving our customers better, more thoroughly and more simply, making it even easier for them to do business with us and solve more of their challenges. When we talk about being in a privileged position, that’s not merely to refer to our strategic or market positioning. It also reflects our view that we are fortunate to work alongside the kind of customers that we do, partner with them to solve their critical water challenges they face. It's a privilege and also a great opportunity for continuing value creation for our shareholders, communities, and all stakeholders. Now let's turn to Slide 11, and I'll walk you through our end market outlook. We expect underlying demand in most of our end markets will continue to be healthy through 2023. We've taken a balanced view based on the strength of our backlog, the critical nature of our largest end markets, and the continued value proposition of our differentiated products. We anticipate our utility business overall, which is our largest end market, will grow high single digits in 2023. On the wastewater side, we expect mid-single-digit growth as we see a continuation of steady global demand. We anticipate resilient OpEx demand in developed markets due to the critical nature of our offerings as well as the benefit of continued CapEx spend in emerging markets. The outlook for longer-term capital project spending and bid activity remains robust. On the clean water side, we anticipate revenues being up low teens. This growth is driven by continued robust demand for our AMI solutions and expected improvements in chip supply through 2023, allowing for significant large deal deployments already secured in our backlog. We foresee healthy momentum in our test and measurement and our pipeline assessment service businesses due to increased focus on infrastructure and climate challenges. Looking at the industrial end market, we expect to grow low to mid-single digits on steady demand for our solutions globally. We continue to see strong growth in dewatering due to mining demand in emerging markets and the benefits of our strategic investments in our U.S. and European dewatering business. The commercial end market should deliver low single-digit growth on solid replacement business and backlog execution, partially offset by moderation in new construction. In residential, our smallest end market, we are expecting low single-digit decline due to normalizing demand in the U.S., partially offset by continued strength in emerging markets. In both commercial and residential, we would expect moderation to emerge in the second half results as we continue to work through the backlog in the first half of 2023. Now I'll turn it over to Sandy to walk you through our updated guidance.

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Sandy RowlandCFO

Thank you, Matthew. Turning to Slide 12. As mentioned, we expect Evoqua to join us in mid-2023. Until then, our full-year guidance is on an organic basis and excludes the combination of the two companies. For Xylem overall, we foresee full-year 2023 revenue growth in the range of 4% to 6%. This breaks down by segment as follows: mid-single-digit growth in Water Infrastructure with solid growth in both wastewater utilities and industrial; low single-digit growth in Applied Water from growth in industrial and commercial, partially offset by residential; We expect Measurement & Control Solutions to be up low teens. For 2023, we expect EBITDA to be in the range of 17.5% to 18%. This represents a 50 to 100 basis point margin expansion versus prior year. And this yields an EPS range of $3 to $3.25, up 10% at the midpoint over the prior year. Free cash flow conversion is expected to be 100% of net income. In addition, today, we announced an increase in our annual dividend of 10%, aligned with our capital allocation framework to grow dividends in line with earnings. We've also provided you with a number of other full-year assumptions in the slide to supplement your models. We're assuming a euro-to-dollar conversion rate of 1.08 and a foreign exchange can be volatile. Our FX sensitivity table is included in the appendix. And now drilling down on the first quarter, we anticipate total company revenues will be in the range of 7% to 9% growth. By segment, we expect high single-digit growth in Water Infrastructure, low single digits in Applied Water and high teens growth for M&CS. We expect first-quarter EBITDA margin to be approximately 16%, driven by higher volumes and more favorable price-cost dynamics. And with that, please turn to Slide 13, and I'll turn the call back over to Patrick for closing comments.

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Patrick DeckerCEO

Thanks, Sandy. We're coming into 2023, very strongly positioned. Our end markets continue to show resilient underlying demand. We're confident in delivering mid-single-digit revenue growth and strong margin expansion, and the team continues to outperform on strong operational and commercial execution. Beyond 2023, we remain well on track to deliver our longer-term strategic and financial milestones. We are very excited about all of the combinations of Xylem and Evoqua will offer towards the creation of a more water secure, resilient, and sustainable world while driving value for our shareholders by accelerating growth and scale. The integration team met last week at our headquarters in D.C., the first of many meetings to set us up for success on day one. And last week, I traveled with Ron Keating, Evoqua's CEO, to a number of their key sites to spend time with their incredibly talented people. Those visits only heightened my appreciation of the potential opportunities ahead and confirm the strong strategic and cultural fit of our two companies. We've also taken the next step in the regulatory process, having submitted the required filings here in the U.S. and progressing toward filings in the relevant international jurisdictions. We continue to anticipate the deal closing midyear A great deal of opportunity will open up when we bring our two companies together. During our next earnings call, we will provide an update on our progress. Meanwhile, our business remains squarely focused on delivering on our 2023 financial commitments and continuing our commercial momentum and execution. Now operator, I'll turn the call back over to you for questions.

Operator

We'll take our first question from Deane Dray with RBC Capital Markets.

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Deane DrayAnalyst

Strong finish to the year, both revenues and margins. And I just want to say congrats again on finally getting to the altar on Evoqua. This has made strategic sense for so long. And having a midyear target closing is lightning fast in our view. I know that there's a lot of heavy lifting. So best of luck.

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Patrick DeckerCEO

Thank you very much, Deane.

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Deane DrayAnalyst

Can we start with M&CS margins? It sounds like the two drivers here, the chip supply improving, and this has been kind of a steady story for the past couple of quarters. How much have you worked through that backlog? And how much of the chip supply improvement contributed to the margin improvement in the segment? And then I've seen a nice shoutout for pipeline assessment. Is this all pure and what's driving that?

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Sandy RowlandCFO

Yes, Deane, thanks for the question. Let me start, and Matt can add some color here. So we are very pleased with our Q4 performance in M&CS. The year has unfolded very much like we thought it would with continuing improvement in chip supply. The story in Q4 is actually a twofold story. We saw some upside compared to what we had forecast, and half of that upside came from better chip supply. And the other half of the upside came from some of our other businesses in the portfolio that we don't talk as much about. So our pipeline assessment services business, a lot of projects were completed in Q4, really good results in our test and measurement business. And all of the entire portfolio across M&CS has good margin potential and good leverage. And so as we've got the top line going again, we're really encouraged that you're seeing that drop to the bottom line.

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Matthew PineCOO

I want to mention that in the fourth quarter, we shifted our approach towards continuous improvement as we wrapped up our product redesigns. We experienced a significant boost in performance during this period. The price-cost dynamic and exit rate in the fourth quarter were particularly strong, indicating solid momentum. This segment was the last to feel the impact of inflation, and we were able to overcome that in the fourth quarter, which contributed to our margin improvement.

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Deane DrayAnalyst

All sounds good. And just as a follow-up, I was hoping to get some more color on this announcement of the software platform investment at Idrica. If you listen to all of the trade shows and conferences, the biggest pain point for utilities is they get so much data, but none of it is connected, and it's all different formats. So this sounds really promising if it's one platform that then is able to integrate all of this. So some color on the pricing. Is this a SaaS business? Is it on-prem? Is it licensed? How will it fit in terms of the revenue stream? And you've got 300 customers now. What's the pipeline for new customers, new logos?

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Patrick DeckerCEO

Sure. So Deane, I'll just make a few comments, and I'll have Matthew go a little deeper because Matthew was part of the team that was integral to this courtship over the course of the past year or more. So he's well versed along with other team members on the opportunity here. But you're right, you said it best. It's the amalgamation of data coming from different data sources that we refer to as the power babble, with different languages, different code, and it makes it very difficult for the utility to optimize their overall network. So that's really what Idrica is getting at. They got a great platform already around the world, and our channels to utilities is really the big opportunity for them. But overlaying this solution to where effectively the way I described it, it's almost as they built the interoperable operating software on which our operating technologies will sit along with other apps that make it easier for the utility user to interface. But Matthew, do you want to talk a little bit about pricing and just the opportunity in the upside?

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Matthew PineCOO

Yes. So from a pricing point of view, Deane, really, there's an implementation cost, obviously, to go implement the platform, which is a fee. And then it's really, to your point, a Software-as-a-Service. It's a subscription fee that's ongoing in some term is really the model that we've built. And just really amplifying your point, again, one of the biggest pain points we hear and we believe really this partnership will translate into really the digital adoption rates in the water sector. We see this as really being an aggregator in terms of bringing all these disparate systems together that Patrick mentioned. And our teams are engaged in building commercial momentum. We've implemented a few pilots that are starting to see great results from our collaboration already. But as we ramp through the year and build backlog, that will start to really unpack in Q4 and into '24.

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Patrick DeckerCEO

And I would clarify, Deane, that when we say pilots in this case, these are actual commercial arrangements that are revenue generating. It's not a pilot where we're going and testing something. So we've already had some very impressive potential wins there that we'll talk about in the, hopefully, the next quarter.

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Joe Giordano with Cowen.

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Joe GiordanoAnalyst

So I just want to follow up on that Idrica stuff real quick and then move on. But is that something that utilities would put in, like, on top of what they already have? Or would it like more likely go like something that they would decide to move forward with like if they're putting in a new deployment?

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Patrick DeckerCEO

A lot of utilities don't have anything like this. So it's really on top of what they have, Joe, and it's integrating all their disparate systems, their SCADA systems, their PLC systems, their ERPs. Anything that's bringing data into their ecosystem gets consolidated into the platform with one dashboard and one interface. And if you think about a lot of the challenges of our utility customers and lots of different industrial customers in general, is they've got multiple applications, multiple passwords, all the information is siloed and they don't have a way to aggregate it. So this would come on as a layer to do that aggregation and give them a way to, as people say, democratize the data, be able to get the data to a user to make sense of all the information coming in.

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Matthew PineCOO

And Joe, just to add, when we say it's built by utility for utilities, we mean that there are many other solutions available, but they can often be quite complex and overly sophisticated. This approach allows utilities to design a solution tailored to their specific stage in their journey. Not every utility is at the same level of sophistication or in the same position, so the system can be customized accordingly. However, it also serves as a highly standardized platform, which contributes to the efficiency of their rollout due to its ease of maintenance.

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Joe GiordanoAnalyst

And then you guys were spending like a decent amount of resources, kind of thinking about developing something like this internally at Xylem, if I'm correct. So now that you've made this decision here, which looks like it's already kind of packaged and ready to go for you, how do you reallocate the resources and what kind of impact does that have of not spending money trying to develop this internally?

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Sandy RowlandCFO

Yes. So I think that's a great question, Joe. There are certainly some overlaps between what we're spending money on from an R&D perspective. Just to remind you, the structure of the transaction is that it's a commercial agreement, which allows us to take the product and sell it on a global basis. And on top of that, we have a minority investment. And so there are certain things that we're going to keep going on our end. And then there are certain things that we're going to be able to leverage between the two companies. But there are certainly some synergies there. But really, this is a growth play.

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Joe GiordanoAnalyst

I would like to discuss the guidance for the first quarter. Could you provide some insights on how we transition from the current situation to the first quarter? I'm trying to understand the balance between conservatism and the uncertainty of the early year. For instance, looking at applied and M&CS, you're forecasting low single-digit growth for the quarter and for the year. Given the current conditions in residential, I would have expected a stronger start to the year, possibly tapering off to flat growth. It seems you're anticipating consistent growth throughout the year. Can you elaborate on that? Additionally, regarding M&CS, the guidance aligns with our expectations, but following the fourth quarter, it indicates a decrease in revenue for the first quarter compared to the fourth quarter run rate. Could you clarify this?

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Sandy RowlandCFO

Yes. Joe, I mean, there's a few things to unpack there. Let me start and the team here will remind me what else you asked. So look, there is some seasonality in our business. And if you look at it from a revenue perspective, we'll have a step down in revenue between Q4 and Q1. We always do. The biggest step down is actually in Water Infrastructure that has a big Q4. M&CS, there will be a little bit of a step down too. It's not so much in the metrology business, but some of the other businesses that we highlighted earlier on the call, our pipeline assessment services business, our test business, there's some seasonality there. So I think it's somewhere between $150 million and $200 million step down, Q4 to Q1. And that aligns with sort of our historical patterns. As we think about the year and the seasonality in the year, different businesses look a little bit different. Certainly, you touched on AWS, which is our most cyclical business when it comes to macro. And from an AWS perspective, we're entering the year with a very, very strong backlog. And so as we've modeled that business, we have modeled a stronger first half versus a stronger second half. The other businesses don't have quite as much seasonality built into the plan, other than in M&CS, we have been calling for a bigger ramp-up in the second half when some of the redesign work comes online and that coincide with better chip supply.

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Patrick DeckerCEO

So I would just add a couple of things, from a historical perspective, just to amplify what Sandy had said here. We are reflecting in our guide that backlog in AWS carries into the first half of the year, but we are forecasting softness in the second half. So obviously, that remains to be seen. Hopefully, things recover faster, and we kind of glide through this and don't get impacted by that. But right now, we're embedding our guide that there is softness that hits us in terms of conversion in the second half. Historically, Water Infrastructure has a bigger Q4 and slows down in Q1 because we're serving the wastewater side of utilities and they spend out their capital and OpEx budgets through the end of the fourth quarter and then they ramp up again in the following year. So just to give some context for those of you that may be new to the story.

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Mike Halloran with Baird.

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Mike HalloranAnalyst

So just following up on that last little bit there. Patrick, you gave some context on the applied backlog. It seems like you're expecting normalization as you work through the year that it makes sense and it's a short-cycle business. Maybe some thoughts on how you're thinking about the backlog tracking for the other two segments? And if you think that there's a chance for normalization either of those as we move towards the end of the year towards a more consistent run rate or more consistent balance between how you think about orders and backlog and revenue conversion.

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Sandy RowlandCFO

Yes, Mike. I think we are already starting to see some normalization. If you look at the orders rate that we've had in the second half of the year, particularly as the pockets where the supply chain has stabilized, we're seeing some of our customers there return to normal behaviors. I'd say Water Infrastructure is a great example of that. We've had a more stable supply chain there. And so that's where we've seen more normal order patterns, and we don't see a backlog that has been as elevated. We still have quite a bit of our backlog that's past due in M&CS, and we do expect to start eating into some of that in 2023. And I think that's a good thing because that means our projects are getting deployed.

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Patrick DeckerCEO

Go ahead, sorry.

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Matthew PineCOO

Yes. I was just going to build on the M&CS comment. We still have 30% of the backlog past due coming into the year. And so we'll still continue to monitor that as the chip supply continues sequentially to improve. That's something where we're looking at. But orders sequentially are good in that business, and we see good momentum going forward commercially.

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Mike HalloranAnalyst

Makes sense. And then on the kind of order side in the quoting pipeline side of things, obviously, orders taking the quarter not a surprise, given the comps, given some balancing out here. How do you think that the sequentials will work out through the year on the order side? What are the expectations there? And maybe any comments on how you're looking at the bidding pipeline as we sit here today in the areas where that's relevant?

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Matthew PineCOO

Yes. From a bidding pipeline perspective, industrial remains very strong globally. We mainly focus on the general industry, which has proven to be quite resilient. Therefore, that area continues to show strength. The commercial sector is showing some strength, but it's expected to slow down in the latter half of the year, mainly due to a moderation in new construction. We monitor the ABI Index, which has been below 50 for the past three months, indicating a potential slowdown in bidding activity for new commercial construction. Regarding the residential sector, it primarily involves replacement work for us. Orders are slowing down, largely because of improvements in the supply chain, which is the most notable area of improvement, as well as investments made during the pandemic. This has significantly affected our orders. Additionally, we have a strong pipeline in M&CS and water infrastructure, particularly in treatment, which is beginning to pick up. Our net backlog continues to grow, and we have a robust funnel.

Operator

And we'll take our next question from Nathan Jones with Stifel.

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Nathan JonesAnalyst

I think I'm going to go to questions and if I can get any answers around revenue synergies from the combination of Xylem and Evoqua. I mean, this is clearly a growth-enabling deal, and Patrick, you highlighted a couple of avenues for that. Investors have been very hungry for information on what kind of value that might add. So is there any color on kind of what your targets are going to be in terms of the expected growth for the combined businesses, how you're going to approach it? Are you going to have specific growth teams assigned to these kinds of projects? Any color and more color you can give us around those kinds of things?

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Patrick DeckerCEO

Certainly. The economic benefits of this merger are clearly supported by the projected cost savings alone, and I want to emphasize that we firmly believe in achieving $140 million in cost synergies within three years. We'll provide detailed information about the specific areas we've identified for these savings, along with the timelines and responsible teams. Beyond cost synergies, this merger is fundamentally about growth. We are focused on the long-term vision of creating a comprehensive water company, leveraging the strengths of both organizations to accomplish objectives we couldn't achieve individually. While I can't disclose concrete figures for revenue synergies just yet, we anticipate a faster growth rate for the combined entity, and we will share specific targets as we finalize the details. Our integration team has already commenced work, and we have assigned teams to pursue various areas of synergy. We've considered potential opportunities even before finalizing the deal, and I've outlined some of those areas in my earlier comments, including the integration of digital services from both companies. Evoqua has already made significant strides in digital enablement, and we are also enhancing our digital offerings in products and aftermarket services. Furthermore, we see great potential for collaboration between our research and development teams to drive innovation and improve our combined portfolio. We are eager to provide more detailed projections and updates as we advance towards closing this deal.

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Nathan JonesAnalyst

I have a follow-up question regarding a specific area of revenue synergies. Xylem has traditionally been a product company, while Evoqua has developed a service-based model. Do you see an opportunity to implement new service-based business models on the legacy Xylem portfolio by leveraging their service footprint?

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Patrick DeckerCEO

Yes, we definitely recognize that. It will take some time; this won't be an immediate synergy, and it likely won't materialize in the first year either. However, we see great potential in incorporating elements of their excellent service offerings. Their entire cultural approach to services is likely to enhance our more traditional, product-focused aftermarket services. They've already made significant progress, and I know Ron would mention that they are still on that journey. I appreciated my time with him last week at various locations, where it was clear that they are very focused on outcome-based solutions. I believe there's a chance to improve our business models and offerings on both the utility and industrial sides. As you know, Nate, there is a strong complementary aspect to this. They have outstanding products within their APT business related to treatment that complement what we offer, and in turn, our treatment portfolio can enhance their industrial services.

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Nathan JonesAnalyst

Yes, it seems to be a lot of avenues for growth there. So I look forward to hearing more about it over the next few months and few quarters.

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And we'll take our next question from Scott Davis with Melius Research.

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Scott DavisAnalyst

Are you still raising prices now that we are into 2023, or have the price increases from 2022 been enough to offset inflation?

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Matthew PineCOO

Yes. We implemented the last round of price increases in November 2022. Therefore, the price increase will carry into 2023. We're closely monitoring the marketplace, particularly the inflationary environment, which has moderated somewhat, but remains elevated. We're also keeping an eye on our win-loss rate to ensure our pricing is competitive in the market.

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Scott DavisAnalyst

All right. That's helpful. Looking back at 2022, many companies were significantly impacted by the chip manufacturers. How do you see your company moving forward in terms of redundancy, flexibility, or any other strategies to ensure that the chip issues do not recur during any future disruptions, making design considerations more proactive?

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Patrick DeckerCEO

Sure, Scott, this is Patrick. First of all, we are definitely not in the clear yet, despite seeing some sequential improvement. I can say that discussions with our chip suppliers and intermediaries have stabilized and strengthened. I know people are currently concerned about the automotive sector and whether we'll quickly receive a surplus of chips. However, that's not how allocation works in this industry. Substitutes are not easy to find. The main focus for us, as Matthew mentioned earlier, was investing significant time, effort, and resources this past year to redesign our offerings for the next generation to ensure we're well-positioned. I believe that if other sectors experience slowdowns, it may actually enhance our recovery, but we are not depending on that or incorporating it into our outlook for the year.

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Scott DavisAnalyst

That’s helpful, Patrick. Just to be clear, so when you talk about redesigning, are you talking about going to a chip design that’s more ubiquitous and more commonly used in consumer electronics? Or is there some sort of level in between where you’re at from that next-gen chip?

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Patrick DeckerCEO

It’s just really getting to next-gen chips, where the capacity is being allocated or being built so we have more capacity for the future, yes, because we’re on legacy designs that they’re bringing down the capacity on those chips.

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And we'll take our next question from Andy Kaplowitz with Citigroup.

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Andy KaplowitzAnalyst

Patrick or Matt, I know you've talked about forecasting a slower second half in Applied Water, especially as new construction potentially sows in commercial. But have you begun to see any evidence of channel destocking or other customer behavior that concerns you in commercial markets? And then separately, have you put in any contingency in your guide for China reopening related noise? It looks like China was still strong for you in Q4?

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Matthew PineCOO

Yes. So Andy, on the first one on channel inventory. We have really good visibility into the inventory given our relationship with our channel partners. The teams we meet monthly and actually quarterly with counsel meetings in addition to weekly sales calls in contact. So we have really good insight into the inventory. The levels are healthy and normalizing and they're not sitting on any excess inventory, which is reported back to us. There are some pockets that have not fully recovered. Commercial is not back to kind of prepandemic levels in terms of inventory. But resi, I would say, is normalized due to the improved supply chain and softening from the pandemic investments.

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Sandy RowlandCFO

On the utility side of the business, and we've seen stronger performance on the industrial side. And so our focus for our team is building orders momentum again. And we remain very bullish long term on China. We're just working through some of the dynamics there now.

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Andy KaplowitzAnalyst

Appreciate that, Sandy. And then it seems like industrial dewatering continues to hold up well as it does tend to be more historically cyclical, but could the business be much less cyclical during the current cycle given the amount of activity that's out there. I know you mentioned mining. Maybe you could comment on the support you're getting from your strategic growth investments as well, what exactly you're doing there?

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Matthew PineCOO

Yes. We made a constant effort back a few years ago to be a bit more balanced in our segmentation of that business, especially shifting more to the muni side, which is a bit more stable. And we've seen that part of the portfolio grow and also just making investments in our fleet and upgrading our technology. We are digitizing those assets and making those remotely connectable so we can improve the productivity for our customers. So it's a mixed bag of really, I'd say, some innovation as well as being thoughtful about being more balanced in the segmentation of the business.

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It appears that we have no further questions at this time. I will now turn the program back over to Patrick Decker for any additional or closing remarks.

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Patrick DeckerCEO

Thank you. So again, thanks, everybody, for your time today. I know you're all very, very busy at this time of the year. Really appreciate your ongoing continued interest in Xylem. I very much look forward to providing you updates on our progress around the Evoqua transaction. And between now and then, safe travels, everyone, and all the very best. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's Xylem fourth quarter and full year 2022 earnings conference call. Please disconnect your lines at this time and have a wonderful day.

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