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Allegion plc is a global provider of security products and solutions. The Company offers a portfolio of mechanical and electronic security products across a range of brands. The Company operates in three geographic regions: Americas; Europe, Middle East, India and Africa (EMEIA), and Asia Pacific. As of November 15, 2013, the Company was selling its security products and solutions under 23 brands in 120 countries, including Schlage, Von Duprin, LCN, CISA and Interflex. It sell a range of security products and solutions for end-users in commercial, institutional and residential facilities worldwide, including into the education, healthcare, government, commercial office and single- and multi-family residential markets. In April 2014, the Company acquired Fire & Security Hardware Pty Ltd.

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Free cash flow has been growing at 8.4% annually.

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Market Cap$12.68B
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P/B6.13
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Revenue$4.07B
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Allegion plc (ALLE) — Q3 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

Apr 4, 202610 speakers4,586 words42 segments

AI Call Summary AI-generated

The 30-second take

Allegion had a strong quarter, growing sales and raising its profit forecast for the full year. The company is doing well because its core business selling locks and security products for offices, schools, and other non-residential buildings remains healthy. However, the market for its residential products, like home locks, continues to be weak.

Key numbers mentioned

  • Q3 revenue was over $1 billion, an increase of 10.7%.
  • Adjusted earnings per share (EPS) for Q3 was $2.30.
  • Full-year 2025 adjusted EPS outlook was raised to $8.10 to $8.20.
  • Year-to-date available cash flow was $485.2 million, up 25.1%.
  • Year-to-date acquisition spending was approximately $600 million.
  • Q3 dividend per share was $0.51, totaling approximately $44 million.

What management is worried about

  • Overall residential market demand is considered soft.
  • The input cost environment remains dynamic with tariffs.
  • International markets have been sluggish.

What management is excited about

  • Spec activity (designs for future projects) has grown over 2024 and year-to-date 2025, supporting the outlook.
  • Electronics revenue was up mid-teens and continues to be a long-term growth driver.
  • The M&A pipeline is still strong in both reporting segments and across product categories.
  • The company expects to benefit from 2025 acquisition activity, with a carryover revenue contribution of approximately 2 points next year.
  • New product launches, like the Schlage Performance Series locks, are providing more ways to win in the market.

Analyst questions that hit hardest

  1. Jeffrey Sprague, Vertical Research — Acquisition multiples and synergies: Management responded by giving general multiple ranges (high single-digit for mechanical, higher for electronics/software) and directed the analyst to a past press release for details on the largest deal.
  2. Julian Mitchell, Barclays — Future operating margin trajectory and corporate costs: Management's response was cautious, stating they would provide a 2026 margin outlook in February and that the long-term goal of 35% incrementals should be achievable.
  3. Tomohiko Sano, JPMorgan — Residential segment performance in Q4: Management gave an evasive answer, stating performance would align with weak market demand rather than providing a specific growth rate for the quarter.

The quote that matters

Our performance is led by an enduring business model in nonresidential Americas, double-digit electronics growth, and accretive capital deployment.

John Stone — President and CEO

Sentiment vs. last quarter

Sentiment comparison is omitted as no previous quarter context was provided.

Original transcript

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Allegion Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Vice President of Investor Relations, Josh Pokrzywinski. Please go ahead.

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Joshua PokrzywinskiVice President of Investor Relations

Thank you, Betsy. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us for Allegion's Third Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. With me today are John Stone, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Mike Wagnes, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer of Allegion. Our earnings release, which was issued earlier this morning, and the presentation, which we will refer to in today's call, are available on our website at investor.allegion.com. This call will be recorded and archived on our website. Please go to Slide 2. Statements made in today's call that are not historical facts are considered forward-looking statements that are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of federal securities law. Please see our most recent SEC filings for a description of some of the factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from our projections. The company assumes no obligation to update these forward-looking statements. Today's presentation and commentary include non-GAAP financial measures. Please refer to the reconciliation in the financial tables of our press release for further details. Please go to Slide 3, and I'll turn the call over to John.

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John StonePresident and CEO

Thanks, Josh. Good morning, everyone. Thanks for joining. Q3 was another strong quarter as we execute our long-term strategy and steadily deliver on our commitments to shareholders. I'm proud of our team's performance as we've remained agile in a dynamic operating environment. The double-digit revenue growth for the enterprise and continued segment margin expansion speaks to the resiliency of our model, our broad end market exposures, and the depth of our relationships with channel partners and end users. We continue to take advantage of our business' strong cash generation, returning cash to shareholders and growing our business through accretive acquisitions. Year-to-date, we have allocated approximately $600 million to acquiring businesses consistent with the priorities we outlined at our Investor Day. As we approach year-end, the key market trends supporting our outlook are largely unchanged. Our team continues to execute well, and we are allocating capital for the long-term benefit of our shareholders. As such, we are raising our 2025 full-year outlook for adjusted earnings per share to $8.10 to $8.20. I'll be back later to discuss the outlook and share some early views on markets for 2026. Please go to Slide 4. Let's take a look at capital allocation for the third quarter, starting with our investments for organic growth. In September, the Allegion team launched a new mid-tier commercial product line for Schlage, our Performance Series locks. These locks bring Schlage quality to more price points in nonresidential applications, giving us more ways to win in the aftermarket and building on the success of the mid-price point Von Duprin 70 Series exit devices released last year. Turning to M&A. Since we spoke at Q2 earnings, Allegion has announced two more acquisitions, UAP and Brisant. These U.K.-based businesses strengthen our product portfolio, including electronic locks in addition to enhancing our cost position. As discussed previously, the acquisitions of ELATEC, Gatewise, and Waitwhile closed earlier in the third quarter. Allegion continues to be a dividend-paying stock, and in the third quarter, this amounted to $0.51 per share or approximately $44 million. We did not repurchase shares in the quarter. And you can continue to expect Allegion to be balanced, consistent, and disciplined with capital deployment over time with a clear priority of investing for profitable growth. Mike will now walk you through the third quarter financial results.

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Michael WagnesSenior Vice President and CFO

Thanks, John, and good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining today's call. Please go to Slide #5. As John shared, our Q3 results reflect continued strong execution from the Allegion team, delivering double-digit revenue growth for the enterprise. Revenue for the third quarter was over $1 billion, an increase of 10.7% compared to 2024. Organic revenue increased 5.9% in the quarter as a result of favorable price and volume led by our Americas nonresidential business, where demand remains healthy. Q3 adjusted operating margin was 24.1%, down 10 basis points compared to last year. Both our segments had margin expansion which was offset by higher corporate expenses relative to the prior year comparable. Volume leverage and mix were accretive to margins. Additionally, price and productivity, net of inflation and investment was a tailwind of $2.2 million. Adjusted earnings per share of $2.30 increased $0.14 or 6.5% versus the prior year. Operational performance and accretive acquisitions contributed 10.6 points of EPS growth. This was partially offset by higher tax and interest and other. We still anticipate the full year tax rate to be in the range of 17% to 18%. Finally, year-to-date available cash flow was $485.2 million, which was up 25.1% as we continue to generate strong cash flow. I'll provide more details on the balance sheet and cash flow a little later in the presentation. Please go to Slide #6. Our Americas segment delivered strong operating results in Q3. Revenue of $844 million was up 7.9% on a reported basis and up 6.4% on an organic basis, led by our nonresidential business. Organic growth included both favorable price and volume in the quarter. Reported revenue includes 1.5 points of growth from acquisitions. Pricing in our Americas segment was 4.6% in the quarter. This includes a combination of core pricing and surcharges as we cover inflation, including tariffs. Our nonresidential business increased mid-single digits organically and demand for our products remains healthy, supported by our broad end market exposure. Our residential business grew mid-single digits, primarily driven by volume associated with new electronic products that we launched in the quarter and price. However, we still consider overall residential market demand to be soft, consistent with year-to-date growth rates. Electronics revenue was up mid-teens and continues to be a long-term growth driver for Allegion. Americas adjusted operating income of $252 million increased 9% versus the prior year. Adjusted operating margin was up 40 basis points as volume leverage and favorable mix were accretive to margins. Price and productivity, net of inflation and investments was a tailwind of $10.2 million. Please go to Slide #7. Our International segment delivered revenue of $226 million, which was up 22.5% on a reported basis and up 3.6% organically, led by our electronics businesses. Acquisitions contributed 13.6% to segment revenue, consisting of the acquisitions John mentioned earlier, net of the previously announced divestiture of API. Currency was also a tailwind, positively impacting reported revenue by 5.3%. International adjusted operating income of $32.3 million increased 28.2% versus the prior year period. Adjusted operating margin for the quarter increased 70 basis points, driven by volume leverage and mix. Acquisitions were accretive to segment margin rates, although slightly dilutive to the enterprise rates. We continue to drive portfolio quality in the International segment through self-help and adding high-performing businesses where we have a right to win. Please go to Slide 8, and I will provide an overview on our cash flow and balance sheet. Year-to-date available cash flow was $485.2 million, up nearly $100 million versus the prior year. This increase is driven by higher earnings, lower capital expenditures, and improvements in working capital. I am pleased with the strong cash generation in 2025. And based on year-to-date performance, we see upside to our previous cash flow outlook. We now expect conversion of 85% to 95% of adjusted net income. Working capital as a percent of revenue increased due to acquired working capital, which does not impact cash flow. Organic working capital improved compared to prior year. Finally, our balance sheet remains strong, and our net debt to adjusted EBITDA is at a healthy ratio of 1.8x. We continue to generate strong cash flow, and our balance sheet supports continued capital deployment. I will now hand the call back over to John.

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John StonePresident and CEO

Thanks, Mike. Please go to Slide 9, and I'll share our updated outlook. With one quarter remaining in the year, our markets remain largely consistent with our prior outlook. And the Americas nonresidential markets remain resilient, and Allegion is performing well in the aftermarket. Our spec activity has grown over 2024 and year-to-date 2025, driven by our broad end market exposure, and this supports our outlook. Residential markets, however, remain soft. And as Mike mentioned, solid performance in Q3 was primarily driven by new electronic product launches. International markets have largely been unchanged year-to-date, and we continue to expect roughly flat organic performance. We expect approximately $40 million of surcharge revenue in the Americas related to tariff recovery, which does include the August 18 scope expansion for Section 232. Based on strong execution and the recent acquisitions of UAP and Brisant, we're increasing our 2025 adjusted EPS outlook to $8.10 to $8.20. You can find additional details as well as below-the-line model items in the appendix. As you know, we'll provide Allegion's formal 2026 financial outlook during our February earnings call. So please go to Slide 10. Today, we'd like to provide a preliminary view on our markets for next year. And I'd say, overall, we expect rather similar market conditions to 2025. In the Americas, our broad end market coverage and spec activity continue to support organic growth in our nonresidential business. Residential markets continue to be soft. The input cost environment remains dynamic with tariffs, and you can expect us to continue to drive price to offset inflation. Internationally, markets have been sluggish; however, we do expect to benefit from 2025 acquisition activity. For the enterprise, we expect carryover revenue contribution of approximately 2 points from acquisitions closed in 2025. Please go to Slide 11. In summary, Allegion is executing at a high level, while staying agile and steadily delivering on the long-term commitments we shared with you at our Investor Day. Our performance is led by an enduring business model in nonresidential Americas, double-digit electronics growth, and accretive capital deployment as we acquire good businesses in markets where we have a right to win. I'm proud of the performance by the Allegion team in this very dynamic environment, which gives us the confidence to increase our EPS outlook for the year. With that, we'll take the questions.

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. The first question today comes from Joe Ritchie with Goldman Sachs.

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Joseph RitchieAnalyst

So I appreciate all the color and the initial look into 2026. John, maybe just pulling on that thread on spec writing continuing to be up and nonres specifically, I think you mentioned last quarter that you were starting to see some positive momentum on spec writing specifically as it relates to office. Can you maybe just give us an update on the key verticals and whether there are any kind of discernible differences between how you feel today versus how you felt a quarter ago?

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John StonePresident and CEO

Yes, it's a good question, Joe. And I think the comments would be very consistent that our spec activity accelerated over the course of 2024 and has grown year-to-date 2025. Rather than picking and choosing this vertical or that vertical, I would just say Allegion's spec writers are very versatile in their expertise, and one day could be writing a specification for an elementary school. The next day, they could be doing multifamily, and the next day after that, they could be doing a data center. So they have that capability, and that engine never turns off. I think the main thing you'd have to take away is that spec activity has continued to grow in 2025, broadly speaking. And spec activity supports our outlook, as we talked about in the prepared remarks and gives us the confidence that we still see organic growth in non-residential Americas.

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Joseph RitchieAnalyst

Okay. Great. Helpful. And then I want to also kind of just talk a little bit more about your M&A pipeline. It's been such a great part of the story, really over the last, like, 12 to 18 months. And recognize that you've kind of given us the 2 points as a placeholder for next year. Just talk about the pipeline as you see it today. And as you're kind of thinking about the potential accretion from an earnings standpoint into next year based on what you already know, just any color around that would be helpful.

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John StonePresident and CEO

Yes, it's a great question, Joe, and it's something we're really excited about. I think the pipeline is still strong and strong in both of our reporting segments, so strong in International, strong in the Americas. And if you recall our Investor Day material, we talked about product categories that we're looking for, whether that's portfolio expansion in our mechanical business, whether that's electronics, whether that's complementary software, we've got activity in all of those categories right now. So very excited about the pipeline. And I'd say you can expect us to continue to be disciplined around the strategy and around the types of businesses we acquire and around the shareholder returns that we generate from these acquisitions. So I feel real good about it. And I think it continues to be an important part of Allegion's overall growth story.

MW
Michael WagnesSenior Vice President and CFO

Joe, with respect to the question on the EPS. In the appendix, we provide what the full-year benefit this year is, which allows you to calculate what the EPS benefit on acquisitions is in the fourth quarter. And think about that as a carryover rate for the first two quarters of the year. The acquisitions were largely done early July. So that should provide you enough information for you to get a framework for the relative size of the benefit that we have.

Operator

The next question comes from Joe O'Dea with Wells Fargo.

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Joseph O'DeaAnalyst

Can you just talk about conversations with building owners, architects, overall end users on the current kind of uncertainty impact in the macro, what they're looking for? Really just trying to get a sense for what your perception is of activity that's sidelined and just waiting for a little bit better visibility and what some of those key ingredients are to bringing that activity off the sidelines?

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John StonePresident and CEO

Yes, Joe, it's a good question. And I would say there's a couple of things going on. And as we are out with customers and end users quite frequently, our own channel checks would indicate comments very consistent with what we shared with you in the prepared remarks, that nonres project activity is humming along pretty well. And I think some private finance came off the sidelines this year. A more favorable interest rate environment would certainly continue to be a swing factor that we would see to bring more of that private finance off the sidelines. But I would say, overall, positive environment and channel checks, our customers' backlogs are pretty healthy and have given them pretty good confidence about organic growth as well. And that's what we've tried to convey to you today. I think nonres overall is humming along pretty well.

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Joseph O'DeaAnalyst

Appreciate that. And then on the International side, I think this was the first quarter of volume growth after four declines, actually better volume growth in International than Americas even this quarter. So just kind of unpacking a little bit more what you saw in the quarter, how you think about any momentum behind a little bit of volume growth there?

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John StonePresident and CEO

Yes, I appreciate you noticing that, Joe. I mean we were certainly really happy to see that and proud of the International team to put those numbers up on the board this quarter. I would say our view on the end markets is still largely unchanged, that it's around flattish kind of organic growth. But I would also say you've had some of the market segments there really at historical troughs, and we don't anticipate that they trend negative in perpetuity. So I think the International team has executed well in a lot of pretty challenging environments. And like Mike mentioned in the prepared remarks, our electronics businesses are still performing very well. And you add to that, we're still really excited about the ELATEC acquisition, which is a pretty sizable deal for us that will continue to add momentum there in the electronic space.

Operator

The next question comes from Julian Mitchell with Barclays.

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Julian MitchellAnalyst

Just wanted to start with maybe the adjusted operating margins. So those were flattish in the third quarter year-on-year. Just wanted to check, but it looks like perhaps you're assuming they pick up again with some margin expansion of a few tens of basis points in the fourth quarter. Just wanted to check if that was the right assumption and how we should think about the corporate cost movement into Q4 and next year in that context?

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Michael WagnesSenior Vice President and CFO

Yes. Thanks for the question, Julian. If you look at the third quarter, pleased with the segment margin expansion, did a really good job. We were negative in corporate. Part of that is just the year-on-year comp. Last year in the third quarter, corporate was low. This year, our third quarter is really consistent, slightly less than even what you saw in the second quarter. As you think about margin expansion for the year, you can back into it; we expect to have margin expansion for the year and in the fourth quarter. And then from a run rate perspective of corporate, the question you asked, you saw what we put up in the third quarter. Think of that as relatively what we've ran in the last couple. So you can kind of use that as a fine estimate.

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Julian MitchellAnalyst

That's very helpful. And just within the Americas segment for a second. You had a decent tailwind from that PPII bucket in the third quarter, and I think that was a good pickup from what you'd seen, that being flattish in the second. When we're looking out the next few quarters, should we assume that, that sort of gross price of about 4 or 5 points is a good placeholder and PPII stays as a decent tailwind? Just trying to understand operating leverage; you have that mid-30s placeholder from the Investor Day. Are we sort of on that path now leaving aside the corporate costs moving around?

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Michael WagnesSenior Vice President and CFO

Yes. If you think about the Americas, I talked about this earlier in the year. Inflation, especially associated with the tariffs, right, was a little quicker than some of the pricing benefits. We said that would improve as the year progressed. You see that in the third quarter. The big item for us on the pricing side is what is inflation and tariffs are a component of that inflation. Just look for us to drive pricing and productivity, and you've heard me mention this many times before. Pricing and productivity cover the inflation and the investment, and that helps drive the margin expansion. Overall, I feel good about the progress we're making in the Americas. I think we're doing a great job in combating a very dynamic environment of change when you think about tariffs, and expect us to continue to drive that margin expansion that we talked about.

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Julian MitchellAnalyst

Got it. And that sort of mid-30s type rate based on inflation and mix and price, that should be achievable the next x kind of quarters. Nothing looks too out of line versus that.

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Michael WagnesSenior Vice President and CFO

Yes. Certainly, Q4 you could calculate. We'll be back in February to give you a '26 margin outlook. Think of that as a long term, right, to the long-term investors out there. Long term, we should be able to drive incrementals of 35%. Let us get to February of next year when we give our outlook and complete the annual operating plan. But certainly, for the fourth quarter, you could calculate the implied margin expansion.

Operator

The next question comes from Jeff Sprague with Vertical Research.

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Jeffrey SpragueAnalyst

I want to come back to the deals, really kind of maybe a two-part question. First, just thinking about sort of everything that you've done here. It all looks like it makes sense and fits in and is nicely moving the needle as we've seen your results. But just thinking about kind of the margin entitlement of what you've acquired, where you might be on integrating these assets? Are they all truly being integrated or any of them sort of stand-alone? Just trying to kind of get my head around kind of the journey you're on here.

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John StonePresident and CEO

I appreciate your question, Jeff. If you remember our Investor Day discussion, we emphasized the importance of being disciplined. Some of the key principles guiding our discipline align with our strategy, geographical presence, and the markets where we have a competitive advantage, such as brand strength, talent, and distribution capability. To specifically address your inquiry, all of these acquisitions are being integrated swiftly, and I see significant synergies in terms of revenue and cost. We also have access to faster-growing segments that we've brought on board. I am very optimistic about how strategically aligned each deal is and I maintain a positive outlook on our acquisition pipeline. However, we are not planning to expand into new areas or geographies; we will focus on enhancing our product portfolio in electronics, mechanical, and complementary software within markets where we excel. You can expect us to pursue acquisitions, but we will remain disciplined, as we have demonstrated so far.

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Jeffrey SpragueAnalyst

Discipline also involves considering the price paid. I understand that each deal is unique, making it challenging to ask Josh or Mike for specific multiples. However, could you provide an overview of the total dollars deployed year-to-date and what the average multiple has been? Additionally, when evaluating synergies, can you share what the forward multiple might look like over the next 12 to 24 months as we integrate these acquisitions?

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John StonePresident and CEO

Yes, Jeff, it's a good question. Very fair question. I think we've had some commentary around this in past quarters. So on the mechanical side, if we're expanding our mechanical portfolio, you would see something in the high single-digit EBITDA multiple would be a fair approximation. On the higher growth electronics and software, you're going to see a bit of a higher multiple there because we're expecting higher growth and higher longer-term returns.

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Michael WagnesSenior Vice President and CFO

The biggest acquisition is ELATEC, which represents the majority of our activity. We provided this information when we announced the acquisition and published our press release. You can refer to that to get a good understanding of the acquisitions and identify the largest component based on the multiple paid.

Operator

The next question comes from Tomo Sano with JPMorgan.

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Tomohiko SanoAnalyst

I'd like to ask you about the residential outlook for Q4 in America. So the residential revenue improved to up mid-single digit in Q3. And you mentioned no clear signs of the recovery of the market for 2026. But how do you see the residential segment performing in Q4? Could you share your current market outlook and also the new product contributions, especially for electronics in Q4, please?

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Michael WagnesSenior Vice President and CFO

To address your question about the residential outlook, I apologize for the earlier phone issues. Overall, the demand for residential products has been weak for some time. In the third quarter, we saw some benefits from the introduction of new products, specifically the e-locks we launched, which included the Arrive lock mentioned during the first quarter earnings call. Even though we experienced some positive effects from this launch, market demand for residential is consistent with year-to-date growth rates, which indicate a slight decline. Looking ahead to the fourth quarter, we do not anticipate mid-single-digit growth; rather, we expect the performance to align with the current market demand, which remains weak in the residential sector.

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Tomohiko SanoAnalyst

And my follow-up question is on tariffs and pricing. So you have demonstrated strong pricing power and agility in managing a tariff-related cost pressures. And are you seeing any signs of pricing fatigue or customer weakness? And how would you see the other market players reacting for pricing in the market, please?

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John StonePresident and CEO

Tomo, this is John. I appreciate your comment. I believe our teams and customers have responded well to the inflation driven by tariffs. Overall, our industry is adjusting with price realization. As Mike mentioned in the prepared comments, we are prepared to address ongoing inflationary pressures with pricing. The demand environment in nonresidential is good and healthy, and I haven't observed any signs of fatigue.

Operator

We have one final question in our queue today. The next question comes from Tim Wojs of Baird.

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Timothy WojsAnalyst

Maybe just the first one, I'm kind of thinking bigger picture about kind of spec and spec writing and just kind of content within the spec. John, how would you kind of compare the content in the spec that you're kind of writing today versus maybe what you were doing 3 years ago? And I'm just trying to kind of get at how that spec is evolving, particularly as you kind of have done some of the, I'd say, ancillary product kind of M&A over the last couple of years?

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John StonePresident and CEO

Tim, that's a great question, and I appreciate you bringing it up. Regarding spec content, we're observing an acceleration in the adoption of electronics, which is reflected in our specifications as well as in the growth figures for electronics that we've been sharing lately. We're quite pleased with this progress. Additionally, our recent product launches in the nonresidential sector are yielding positive results. We're also beginning to see, albeit on a small scale, opportunities to incorporate some of the complementary software we've created organically into multifamily applications, which is exciting for us. As for our new acquisitions, several of them, like Krieger Specialty Products in the nonresidential Americas, align perfectly with our specification engine, and we're eager to witness growth in this area. Recall that this acquisition added products to our hollow metal portfolio that were previously missing, including high-margin, fast-growing niche products that present great opportunities for new customer specification. Another strong example from this year is Trimco, known for high-end specialty hardware for commercial applications. If you had surveyed our channel customers over the past few years, they would have pointed to Trimco as an ideal acquisition target for Allegion, so we're thrilled to have that team join us. It seamlessly integrates with our specification engine, and we're encouraged by the momentum we're seeing.

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Timothy WojsAnalyst

Okay. That's great to hear. And then maybe just on the modeling side. Just in International, kind of the opposite of Julian's question on PPII, that flipped negative this quarter. Is that just a timing consideration? Or is there anything to read in there around price, productivity and inflation?

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Michael WagnesSenior Vice President and CFO

Yes. If you think about margins in International, good performance this quarter. It was slightly negative on the PPII. On a year-to-date basis, though, Tim, think of it as it's negative like $1 million if you add up the three quarters. So it's essentially covered. And look for us in International to cover that inflationary pressure. So I wouldn't look too much into the third quarter at all. Look at the year-to-date rate, and you get an idea; we're doing a pretty good job there.

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to CEO, John Stone, for any closing remarks.

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John StonePresident and CEO

Thanks very much, and thanks, everyone, for the very engaging Q&A. We look forward to connecting with you on our Q4 earnings call in February. Be safe, be healthy.

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.

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