Avery Dennison Corp
Avery Dennison Corporation is a global materials science and digital identification solutions company. We are Making Possible™ products and solutions that help advance the industries we serve, providing branding and information solutions that optimize labor and supply chain efficiency, reduce waste, advance sustainability, circularity and transparency, and better connect brands and consumers. We design and develop labeling and functional materials, radio-frequency identification (RFID) inlays and tags, software applications that connect the physical and digital, and offerings that enhance branded packaging and carry or display information that improves the customer experience. Serving industries worldwide — including home and personal care, apparel, general retail, e-commerce, logistics, food and grocery, pharmaceuticals and automotive — we employ approximately 35,000 employees in more than 50 countries. Our reported sales in 2024 were $8.8 billion.
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49.0% undervaluedAvery Dennison Corp (AVY) — Q3 2022 Earnings Call Transcript
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The 30-second take
Avery Dennison had another strong quarter, meeting profit expectations despite rising costs and a stronger U.S. dollar. The company is seeing early signs that customer demand is softening as they work through excess inventory, but management remains confident in their full-year outlook and their high-growth "Intelligent Labels" business.
Key numbers mentioned
- Adjusted earnings per share (EPS) for Q3 was $2.46.
- Full-year 2022 EPS guidance was narrowed to a range of $9.70 to $9.85.
- Full-year inflation is anticipated to be more than 20%.
- Free cash flow year-to-date was nearly $425 million.
- Currency translation headwind for the full year is now a roughly $77 million headwind.
- Intelligent Labels revenue was up 20% enterprise-wide.
What management is worried about
- Signs of softening demand are emerging as higher inventory levels downstream from the company have begun to reduce.
- Material availability challenges remained in North America, particularly for paper.
- The base apparel business declined slightly, driven by a decline in the value channel as some brands and retailers brought down inventories.
- The strong U.S. dollar is creating an incremental headwind, and if rates remain, it would be an additional $0.50 headwind in 2023.
- Order patterns are starting to soften as supply chains normalize and customers adjust inventories.
What management is excited about
- The Intelligent Labels business is poised to grow more than 20% annually in the coming years, with promising developments in logistics, food, and general retail.
- The company is strategically investing to capture and create Intelligent Label opportunities, expanding from targeted applications to broad-based use cases.
- The acquisition of Vestcom is performing well, adding capabilities and making the RBIS portfolio more resilient and less cyclical.
- Label and Graphic Materials volumes remain strong, up 4% annually versus pre-pandemic 2019 levels.
- The company is confident its strategies will enable it to generate superior value creation through GDP-plus growth and top quartile returns.
Analyst questions that hit hardest
- Ghansham Panjabi — Robert W. Baird & Company, Inventory destocking phase and severity: Management responded that they don't know exactly where they are in the cycle, with guidance assuming reductions continue into Q4, but noted the situation varies by region and channel.
- Adam Josephson — KeyBanc Capital Markets, Specifics on softening October order patterns: Management gave an evasive, two-part answer attributing it to normalized customer inventories and supply chain improvements, specifically noting it was more pronounced in Europe.
- John McNulty — BMO Capital Markets, Timing of raw material relief given favorable indicators: Management confirmed the analyst's understanding but gave a cautious, non-committal response, stating future relief depends on how European energy prices evolve over the winter.
The quote that matters
We are as confident as ever in the long-term prospects of the company.
Mitchell Butier — CEO
Sentiment vs. last quarter
The tone was more cautious than last quarter, shifting from highlighting record beats and raised guidance to acknowledging clear signs of softening demand and inventory reductions, while strongly defending confidence in the long-term strategy.
Original transcript
Operator
Greetings. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Avery Dennison's Earnings Conference Call for the Third Quarter Ended on October 1, 2022. This call is being recorded and will be available for replay from 4:00 p.m. Eastern Time today through midnight Eastern Time, October 29. To access the replay, please dial 800-633-8284 or +1 402-977-9140 for international callers. The conference ID number is 21997967. I'd now like to turn the call over to John Eble, Avery Dennison's Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.
Thank you, Scott. Please note that throughout today's discussion, we'll be making references to non-GAAP financial measures. The non-GAAP measures that we use are defined, qualified and reconciled from GAAP on Schedules A4 to A10 of the financial statements accompanying today's earnings release. We remind you that we'll make certain predictive statements that reflect our current views and estimates about our future performance and financial results. These forward-looking statements are made subject to the Safe Harbor statement included in today's earnings release. As always, on the call today are Mitch Butier, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Greg Lovins, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Also joining us for Q&A today is Deon Stander, President and Chief Operating Officer. I'll now turn the call over to Mitch.
Thanks, John, and good day, everyone. We delivered another strong quarter with revenue up 19% and EPS of $2.46, and up 26% excluding currency, in line with expectations. We had strong performance across the company. LGM and RBIS both delivered impressive top and bottom line growth. Our strong results come amidst a dynamic environment. Inflation continues, we're raising prices accordingly, and now we see signs of softening demand. The higher inventory levels downstream from us that we called out at the start of the year have begun to finally reduce. Despite these challenges, and an incremental $0.10 currency headwind, we remain on track to deliver EPS growth of 10% for the year, 18% excluding currency. Our ability to consistently deliver impressive financial results rests both on the team's depth of ability to execute amidst compounding crises and the strategic foundations we have laid. As you know, a key element of our strategy has been our focus on accelerating the adoption of Intelligent Labels. Enterprise-wide Intelligent Labels revenue was up 20%. As you heard us mention a quarter ago, momentum in this business is accelerating. We are now targeting more than 20% growth annually in the coming years, with promising developments in logistics. This is expanding from targeted applications such as special package handling to broad-based use cases in food, where we are seeing promising pilots in grocery and QSR, and in general retail, where the technology is being expanded beyond apparel. The benefits of our Intelligent Labels technologies and solutions are clear. The increased supply chain and inventory visibility, lower cost, and improved speed of operations reduce waste and ultimately enhance the experience of end consumers. We believe the current macro environment will serve to further heighten the value of our tech and solutions here. As the global leader in RFID, we have and will continue to strategically invest to not only capture Intelligent Label opportunities but create them. Our strategies continue to pay off. Now a quick update on the quarter by business. Label and Graphic Materials posted strong top line growth driven by higher pricing and low single-digit volume growth. The supply chain constraints we discussed last quarter eased in Europe, enabling us to normalize lead times, whereas, in North America, material availability challenges remained, particularly in paper. Overall, volumes remained strong across LGM, up 4% annually versus 2019. LGM's profitability remained strong in the quarter, with double-digit operating income growth. Retail Branding and Information Solutions delivered another quarter of strong margins and revenue growth. Robust growth in high-value categories, Intelligent Labels, external embellishments, and Vestcom was partially offset by a low single-digit decline in the base apparel business. Following several strong quarters, apparel volumes moderated as some brands and retailers brought down inventories that were built up previously. While our outlook assumes further reductions will take place in the near term, we are well positioned to continue to drive profitable growth in the base. As for Industrial and Healthcare Materials, the segment delivered strong sales growth in the quarter and improved margins compared to the prior year and sequentially as we continue to implement pricing actions to cover inflation. Across the company, I'm pleased with the continued progress we are making towards the success of all our stakeholders. Our consistent performance reflects the strength of our markets, our industry-leading positions, the strategic foundations we've laid, and our agile and talented team. We remain confident that the strategies we formulated will continue to enable us to generate superior value creation through a balance of GDP-plus growth and top quartile returns over the long run. And once again, I want to thank our entire team for continuing to raise their game to address the unique challenges at hand and deliver value for all of our stakeholders. Over to you, Greg.
Thanks, and hello, everybody. As Mitch said, we delivered another strong quarter, with adjusted earnings per share of $2.46, up 15% over the prior year and up 26% excluding currency translation. Sales were up 19% excluding currency and 16% on an organic basis, driven by higher prices. Adjusted EBITDA was up 13% and 22% excluding the impact of currency. Despite the impact of inflation, we delivered a strong adjusted EBITDA margin of 15.6%, up 20 basis points compared to the prior year. Turning to cash generation and allocation, year-to-date, we've generated nearly $425 million of free cash flow, with $140 million in the third quarter, down compared to the prior year due to currency, higher working capital, which we deem largely as temporary, and increased capital spending. The higher level of capital spending is in line with our expectations as we continue to invest to support our long-term growth strategy, particularly in Intelligent Labels. Our balance sheet remains strong, with a net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio at quarter end of 2.1. We have ample capacity to continue executing our disciplined capital allocation strategy to invest in organic growth and acquisitions while continuing to return cash to shareholders. In the first nine months of the year, we returned $497 million to shareholders through a combination of share repurchases and dividends, up from $290 million for the same period last year. Now turning to segment results, Label and Graphic Materials sales were up 20% on an organic basis, driven almost entirely by higher prices. Label and Packaging Materials sales were up more than 20% on an organic basis, with strong growth in both the high-value product categories and the base business. Graphics and Reflective sales were up mid- to high single digits on an organic basis. Looking at the segment's organic sales growth in the quarter by region, North America sales were up mid-teens due to pricing, on lower volume as the region continued to be hampered by material availability constraints, as Mitch mentioned earlier. Western Europe sales were up approximately 40%, driven by strong volume growth and a significant impact from pricing as this region has seen the highest amount of inflation across this cycle. Emerging markets overall were up high teens. The Asia Pacific region was up mid- to high single digits, with approximately 40% growth in India, while China and ASEAN were roughly flat. And Latin America grew more than 25%. LGM's profitability remained strong in the quarter, with adjusted EBITDA dollars up 10% and up 19% excluding currency, and adjusted EBITDA margin of 15.6%. Pricing actions continue to be implemented to offset inflation. We anticipate inflation will be more than 20% for the year, with a low to mid-single-digit increase expected sequentially in Q4, primarily driven by paper and energy. We continue to address the cost increases through a combination of product reengineering and pricing actions. Shifting now to Retail Branding and Information Solutions, RBIS sales were up 22% excluding currency and 7% on an organic basis, as growth was strong in the high-value categories, with continued strength in Intelligent Labels and external embellishments, while the base business was down slightly, driven by a decline in the value channel. Profitability remained strong for this segment, with adjusted EBITDA dollars up 19% and up 27% excluding currency, and adjusted EBITDA margin of 18.9%. The positive benefit from higher organic volume and acquisitions more than offset growth investments and higher employee-related costs. Turning to the Industrial and Healthcare Materials segment, sales increased 5% on an organic basis, driven by higher prices. Healthcare sales were up mid-teens and industrial categories were up mid- to high single digits, partially offset by a mid-teens decline in retail. Adjusted EBITDA dollars were up 4% and 8% excluding currency, and adjusted EBITDA margin of 14.3% was up 90 basis points compared to the prior year and up 60 basis points sequentially. Now shifting to our outlook for the year, we've narrowed our guidance for adjusted earnings per share to be between $9.70 and $9.85. At the midpoint, our guidance reflects a roughly $0.10 incremental headwind from currency and an operational outlook similar to last quarter. This outlook reflects 10% earnings per share growth versus the prior year and 18% growth excluding currency translation. We now anticipate roughly 16% ex-currency sales growth for the full year, 0.5 point below our previous expectation due to a slightly lower volume outlook. The anticipated impact from currency translation has increased and is now a roughly $77 million headwind for the full year based on current rates. Given the dollar has continued to strengthen throughout the year, assuming rates remain where they currently are, we'll have an additional headwind of roughly $0.50 in 2023. We continue to anticipate investing up to $350 million on fixed capital and IT projects and roughly $35 million in operating expenses, adding capabilities and new capacity particularly in key strategic platforms such as Intelligent Labels, which is poised to grow more than 20% annually in the coming years. Lastly, we now anticipate a roughly $0.05 GAAP to non-GAAP difference for the year, down $0.05 from our outlook last quarter, reflecting a benefit from a gain on one of our strategic venture investments. In summary, we delivered another strong quarter in a challenging environment. We remain confident that the consistent execution of our strategies will enable us to meet our long-term goals for superior value creation through a balance of profitable growth and capital discipline. We'll now open up the call for your questions.
Operator
We have a question from Ghansham Panjabi with Robert W. Baird & Company.
I guess, for my question, Mitch, you touched on the supply chain inventory adjustments, downstream rippling through all the way up to you guys. That seems to be pretty pervasive just based on other earnings reports from different companies and so on and so forth. Where do you think you are in that phase? And is it more specific in any particular region? And is there a chance of a more severe destocking in RBIS given some of the excess inventory that a lot of the footwear customers have called out in recent weeks and months?
Yes. Thanks, Ghansham. So very high level. We don't know exactly where we are in that. There's not a lot of great data about where inventory levels are outside of the large retailers in the apparel sector. So when we entered the year, we said that we thought that we had an elevated level of inventories downstream from us. It seems like it's starting to clear out. If you look within RBIS and apparel, the value channel, so the large discounters, seem to be ahead of others as far as reducing that, and that's been impacting us in Q2 and Q3. As we look at the other large retailers in athletic performance companies and so forth, I think they're still in the midst of that right now. So our guidance assumes that, that continues going into Q4. As for LPM, we think that Europe has had a very strong Q3 as the supply chains eased up there. So we expect our guidance has some softening of that here in Q4. And for North America, though, given the supply chain constraints, there's some inventory in the system, but it doesn't seem as much as maybe you would otherwise think.
Operator
Our next question is from Anthony Pettinari with Citigroup Global Markets.
Just following up on Ghansham's question. Can you talk about maybe the level of organic volume growth that you're expecting for LGM or what level could be embedded in the view for and maybe some of the regional differences? I think earlier in the year, there was an expectation for volume growth to kind of accelerate in the second half. I'm just wondering how the cadence from 3Q to 4Q is sort of shaping up?
Hi, Anthony, this is Deon. Overall, our sales grew 20% on an organic basis in the quarter, with volumes growing in the low single digits. As a reminder, since pre-pandemic times, LGM has actually grown at a 4% compound annual growth rate, which is well ahead of GDP. Specifically in each region, Europe saw a very strong volume growth, low double-digit growth as we worked through the backlogs where supply chain constraints, particularly in paper, started to ease. In Western Europe, as Greg indicated earlier on, we saw high-teen volume growth. In North America, continued paper availability challenges drove mid-single volume declines on top of very tough comps. We expect the availability challenges to moderate in Q4 and this to improve. In Asia Pacific, our volumes grew low single digits, reflecting the COVID challenge in China as well as strong volume in India. A reminder that we recently opened our new greenfield site in Noida, India, which adds capacity to support this future market growth. As Mitch has already indicated, we're starting to see order patterns slightly soften as we go through October, and we anticipate that as inventory corrections adjust, this will continue.
Operator
Our next question is from John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets.
So had a nice kudo, I guess, yesterday with UPS highlighting how important efficiency in RFID was in helping them to hit their numbers, so good on that. I guess as a follow-up maybe, I'd be curious, you mentioned early on logistics is kind of moving to the next level for you guys. Can you help us to understand what's kind of in the pilot phase process, and how close we may be to seeing other larger players kind of reach that tipping point where it goes on to a full-fledged launch as opposed to just pilots?
John, this is Deon, again. You're right. We originally said that what we're seeing in logistics in the early pilot stages was very much around how they would manage special packaging, as an example, hazardous materials. What we're now seeing is an increased focus on routing optimization and the efficiency that will bring. We expect that this will continue to scale from pilot to adoption as more of the logistics players get involved as they see the benefits of both individual identification and package identification management, as well as routing optimization come to bear in the market.
Yes. And just to build, as far as other large players and so forth that might be doing things, we're not going to comment on given how concentrated in the industry is, where things are overall. We see this as a significant opportunity long term. We actually want to make sure there's a good cadence of how this gets deployed across the industry. So this is a huge significant opportunity in logistics as well as the other categories. We've talked about in food and general retail and apparel still driving significant growth from a very high base.
Operator
Our next question is from Jeffrey Zekauskas with JPMorgan Securities.
Thanks very much. You mentioned that raw materials are increasing sequentially, but propylene and its derivatives are now decreasing significantly. Additionally, there are reductions in energy costs, particularly for natural gas in Europe. However, you mentioned that you expect higher inflationary costs in the fourth quarter. Is this expected to be the peak? Is the increase mainly due to paper costs, and are your average prices continuing to rise sequentially?
Yes. Thanks, Jeff, for the question. So as I said, we saw some sequential inflation from Q2 to Q3. That included a bit of slight deflation on the chemicals and film side, just as you said, with petrochemical inputs starting to come down. We expect a bit more favorability on those from Q3 to Q4. The increases we've been seeing here in the back half are largely paper-driven, with much of that also coming in Europe, really driven by what you've seen as energy costs are up. They've started to come down for now. Depending on how you look at those projections, there is some expectation, depending on how the winter goes, that those could come back up. So they've come down recently, very recently, I'm not sure how that will continue to play out. Our approach has been continuing to manage that through both pricing and productivity. We did have sequential price benefit from Q2 to Q3 and we continue to increase prices here as we move through the back quarter as well. Overall, we continue to see generally inflationary pressure driven by paper, with some relief on the petrochemical side. At the same time, we do see even though utility costs or energy costs have come down a little bit now, still a bit of a headwind as we move into next year for suppliers as well as our own operations. Not a big impact for our operations, but bigger for our supply base, as well as just continued inflationary pressures in areas like wages that are a bit higher than what we normally would have seen from an inflation perspective. So kind of a broad set of inflationary pressure still, we think, and we've continued to increase prices to manage that.
Operator
Our next question is from George Staphos with BofA Securities.
Thanks for the details. I want to come back to the question on Intelligent Labels and adoption. So you're obviously optimistic on the outlook. You're calling for 20% or better growth, more than 20% growth looking out into the future. How do you think that evolves or varies if we are in a bit of a downturn next year? Partly, as I would imagine some of your target customers' return profiles on adoption in a trial might come down early on if there's less traffic to track through Intelligent Labels. How should we expect that? Do you expect to see better than 20% growth next year?
We expect better than 20% growth in various economic scenarios. The benefits, as we said, are clear, and there is a very quick payback coming from a multitude of areas around increased revenue lifts from enhanced consumer experiences through productivity because of automation and just increased speed. So we expect that in a number of scenarios. There's a lot of questions around where we are in the inventory cycle, and so forth. We entered the year expecting that there's some excess inventory. We have scenario plans about how to manage through these various elements. We are not fazed by that. We are as confident as ever in the long-term prospects of the company. We continue to invest. We've got great growth drivers such as Intelligent Labels, the addition of Vestcom, and the company’s focus within staple categories. So we're as confident as ever and will continue to lean forward here and continue to deploy our scenario plans depending on which economic environment we're in.
And George, this is Deon. I’d like to add that in terms of various sub-segments, while apparel has experienced significant growth, we see strong growth opportunities ahead, particularly with new customers joining us, expanding into additional categories, and new applications like loss prevention next year. The food and logistics segments are much larger than apparel, and we are just beginning to see adoption in those areas, especially as some of the solutions we offer start to resonate. For instance, in grocery, the pilot we conducted has significantly improved store labor efficiency and freshness visibility throughout the supply chain. We are optimistic about the future and are continuing to invest in both innovation and capacity. We believe this business will reach $1 billion in 2023.
Operator
Our next question is from Josh Spector with UBS Securities.
Just curious if you could comment on the backlogs in LGM by the regions, or I guess to the extent that there is a backlog existing given the growth you saw in Europe? So just curious how the length there changed? And have you seen any change in pricing behavior from the competitors as their material availability improves as well?
Josh, yes. As we anticipated, we knew that there were excess inventories in the supply chain. As we have worked through our backlogs, we started to see supply chains more normalized, particularly in Europe, less so in North America, where the material availability challenges persist. As those lead times normalize, we're starting to see softening in overall demand as inventories are corrected at our customers. As for your second question, we're not going to comment on competitive activity. Suffice to say, we still see strong growth and opportunity in the market, as well as managing our pricing relative to the inflation that we continue to see as we move through Q4.
Operator
We have a question from Adam Josephson with KeyBanc Capital Markets.
Deon, just to follow up on that. When you talk about softening order patterns in October, can you be any more specific in terms of region, segment? And then is that because converters are reducing their label stock inventories? Is it because of end market demand that's weakening? Can you give me a little better sense of what you think is the reason for those slowing order patterns?
Well, Adam, as I said, I think there's two elements at play here. One is that as supply chain constraints abate, we've tending to see some of the risks disappear, and our converting customers are starting to normalize their inventories, which then has an impact on some of our order patterns as we've gone through October. It's not necessarily region specific. It's more pronounced initially in Europe because this is where we've seen the biggest moderation in the supply chain volatility that we had, and we've seen more normalized order lead times as we've gone to market during October.
And I think it's important to look at, so we expect in October to come in where it's coming in. The supply chain challenges in North America, we, even a month ago, knew that it would basically be end of October when that would start to ease up a little bit, allowing us to be able to get the product out the door. To be quite frank, Europe came in stronger volumes than we had anticipated in Q3. We think that was a little bit just pull forward from Q4 as far as the temporary inventory build on top of whatever was there. There's been a lot of management to look at growth and so forth just because of comps around supply chain challenge over the last couple of years, and timing of price increases that would cause temporary pull forwards and so forth. It's why we go back and look at what's our compound annual growth rate been since pre-pandemic levels. That’s been 4% pretty consistently throughout the year here. We're anticipating it again being 3% to 4% here in Q4. Overall, volumes remain strong when you look at it relative to GDP and consumption.
If I could just clarify one other point, I think at a company level, and Mitch already talked about this a little bit, but the bigger inventory drawdown is most likely on the apparel side. Deon talked a little bit about LGM, where we're seeing more of that, of course, as we talked already, is more on the apparel piece of the business.
Operator
We have a question from Mike Roxland with Truth Securities.
Congrats on the quarter. Last quarter, your company benefited from portfolio shifts in RBIS. You called that out with high-value segments comprising about 50% or so, resulting in less exposure, obviously, because you noted to the value channel. Can you talk about plans to further increase the portfolio to higher value categories and to minimize your exposure to this value channel?
Overall, that's a fundamental aspect of our strategy. The first key focus is to achieve substantial growth in higher-value segments, and we've discussed how our portfolio has been evolving as a company. Specifically within RBIS, we've seen significant outcomes from the growth in Intelligent Labels, along with notable organic growth and the acquisitions we've made there, including those around Vestcom and other areas that are heavily skewed towards high-value segments. This reflects the successful execution of our strategy. Moving forward, we anticipate that this will continue to enhance the company's average growth rate and improve our margin profile, as evidenced over the past few years.
Operator
And we have a question from George Staphos with BofA Securities.
If I could, I'll put two in here real quickly. First of all, Greg, you mentioned the potential headwind if we mark-to-market for foreign exchange into next year. Could you remind us about your financing, specifically the fixed versus variable portion? If we did a mark-to-market, would there be much change in your interest expense outlook for 2023 compared to what we've seen year-to-date? And then, Deon, could you give us a quick update on how Vestcom is performing? What are the pleasant surprises, and are there any areas needing improvement?
Yes. Thanks, George. So as you said, currency, right now, if rates stay where they are now for next year, we'd have about a $0.50 headwind. If debt levels kind of stayed around the level they are now, we would see probably $0.05 to $0.10 headwind as well just from the increase in interest costs as we head into next year. So those are a couple of specifics looking at next year. I think year-over-year, we have a number of things like we talked about IL to continue to grow, Mitch mentioned that a few minutes ago as well is a key growth driver for us, of course. So a number of ins and outs as we look at next year and the uncertainty of the macro, but specifically, $0.05 to $0.10, we would think interest headwind at current debt levels.
And, George, as regards Vestcom, we've been extremely pleased with the acquisition and the Vestcom team joining the Avery Dennison family. The business continues to grow and thrive, and particularly the talented team at Vestcom has added enormously to the broader capability that Avery Dennison has. In particular, we're seeing a lot of collaboration between our Vestcom team and our Identification Solutions team. There is a strong overlap on solutions that benefit some of our end retail markets like food and logistics and apparel as well. I'd also say, George, the final point, that Vestcom brings to the RBIS portfolio a balance as well as it's less cyclical. This ensures that their portfolio at our RBIS level becomes more resilient as we move forward through cycles.
Operator
We have a question from Chris Kapsch with Loop Capital Markets.
And my question is focused on the LGM segment. I realize there's limited visibility into '23. But there's a scenario where you could see continued inflation in, say, paper and energy and then maybe more moderation in the petro-derived raw material costs. Just wondering what your thoughts are based on experience in prior cycles about the ability to keep pricing in excess of the raw material cost inflation as a means to improve margins in that segment? Given all the cross-currents, should we expect that mix would continue to be a positive contributor to LGM segment margins?
Yes, Chris. We've gone through a lot of things we've managed through the last couple of years. One is the unprecedented inflation, but also supply chain challenges at the same time. Our teams have proven resilience and have been able to manage through a number of those challenges like that and feeling well prepared for any type of downturn that we may see next year. So when you back up and look at LGM, from a margin percentage perspective, certainly, the margin percent has been impacted just by the magnitude of pricing we've been putting in. We've said it's roughly 20% here in the third quarter versus last year, on top of pricing we were putting in last year. The math on the margins has led to a margin percentage impact there. But when you look overall at LGM, you heard Mitch and Deon both say about a 4% compound growth rate from 2019 to this year from a volume perspective. At the same time, if you look at LGM EBITDA dollars, they're up in the 9% to 10% range, compound growth range when we look over that period. That business has done a tremendous job really driving strong EBITDA growth over the last many years despite the impacts on margin percentage from the pricing math. In LGM, we’ve got strong capital efficiency, strong margins, strong growth opportunities, and that business generates significant EVA, and we expect to be able to continue delivering significant EVA into the future there.
Operator
Our next question is from John McNulty with BMO Capital Markets.
Just one, I guess, area of clarification around the raw materials and your outlook. If I understood right, it sounds like petrochemicals are starting to come down, may come down more. The paper supply chain issues seem to be improving, but you guys are actually guiding to raw materials up sequentially. Do I have all that right? Is that right? And is there something in terms of the timing of when you might see raw material relief that it lags a bit, and it drags into say, Q1 because it seems like the arrows are pointing favorably and yet your arrow is pointing negatively?
Yes. So you have those pieces right, John. I think the paper inflation is really most recently largely driven by Europe, and a lot of that has been driven by the energy cost inflation that we've seen over the last couple of quarters. We talked a few minutes ago, Jeff said that energy prices have come down a little bit over the last week or so. Not sure how that will continue or how that will play out. It may depend on how the winter goes in Europe and how those energy prices play out. Right now, we expect some sequential inflation here in Q4. How that plays out going into the beginning of next year will largely be determined by how those energy prices evolve over the next few months.
Excellent. Well, thank you, everybody, for joining the call today. We remain confident that the consistent execution of our strategies will enable us to continue to deliver superior long-term value creation for all of our stakeholders. I know there's a lot of questions about what's going on in the macro. We're as confident as ever. If you look at the performance of the company over the last number of years with compounding crises, we've been laying the foundation to continue to drive superior profitable growth, both in the near and long term. So we look forward to talking to you all again in the coming quarter.
Operator
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