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Southern Company is a leading energy provider serving 9 million customers across the Southeast and beyond through its family of companies. The company has electric operating companies in three states, natural gas distribution companies in four states, a competitive generation company, a leading distributed energy solutions provider with national capabilities, a fiber optics network and telecommunications services. Our uncompromising values ensure we put the needs of those we serve at the center of everything we do and are the key to our sustained success, driven by our nearly 30,000 employees dedicated to delivering exceptional service.

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Southern Company (SO) — Q3 2020 Earnings Call Transcript

Apr 5, 202614 speakers2,526 words100 segments

AI Call Summary AI-generated

The 30-second take

Southern Company reported strong financial results for the third quarter, beating their own expectations. The company is making steady progress on its major Vogtle nuclear plant construction, which remains on track. Management expressed confidence in their ability to manage through the ongoing challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic.

Key numbers mentioned

  • Third quarter adjusted EPS was $1.02 per share.
  • Georgia Power's share of the total project capital cost forecast is unchanged at $8.5 billion.
  • COVID-19 load reduction estimate was 2.5% to 5%.
  • Schedule cost margin for Vogtle came down to 18% from 20%.

What management is worried about

  • The ongoing impacts of the COVID-19 virus at the Vogtle construction site required a revised work plan.
  • There is a risk related to subcontractor performance affecting the timeline for Vogtle Unit 3.
  • Management acknowledged that the chemicals industrial segment was down year-over-year.
  • They are monitoring policy developments in Illinois related to the Nicor gas business.

What management is excited about

  • They are targeting an in-service date of June 2022 for Vogtle Unit 4, ahead of the regulatory date.
  • Management expects to see improvements in productivity at the Vogtle site as focus shifts from Unit 3 to Unit 4.
  • They believe the post-Vogtle period will allow for a significantly higher earnings per share growth rate.
  • The PowerSecure business unit just had its best quarter ever.
  • They see significant future opportunity in areas like batteries and microgrids.

Analyst questions that hit hardest

  1. Shar Pourreza, Guggenheim Partners: Vogtle cost contingency and schedule. Management gave a somewhat technical and defensive answer, stating the schedule reduction was "by plan" due to COVID and that cost discussions were ongoing.
  2. Michael Weinstein, Credit Suisse: Quantifying post-Vogtle earnings growth and future nuclear construction. The CEO deferred detailed answers to a future call and gave a broad, non-committal response on new nuclear, focusing instead on finishing the current project.
  3. Angie Storozynski, Seaport Global: Management change at Georgia Power and support for Vogtle. The CEO gave a lengthy, reassuring answer emphasizing the seamless transition and the incoming leader's capabilities.

The quote that matters

we have substantially mitigated both weather and COVID-19 impacts throughout 2020, allowing us to exceed our estimates on an adjusted basis.

Drew Evans — CFO

Sentiment vs. last quarter

Omitted as no previous quarter context was provided.

Original transcript

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Pema, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Southern Company Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Call. All lines have been muted to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded... I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Scott Gammill, Investor Relations Director. Please go ahead, sir.

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Scott GammillInvestor Relations Director

Thank you, Pema. Good afternoon and welcome to Southern Company’s third quarter 2020 earnings call. Joining me today are Tom Fanning, Chairman, President, and Chief Executive Officer of Southern Company; and Drew Evans, Chief Financial Officer. Let me remind you, we’ll be making forward-looking statements today in addition to providing historical information. Various important factors could cause actual results to differ materially from those indicated in the forward-looking statements... I’ll turn the call over to Tom Fanning.

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Tom FanningCEO

Thanks, Scott. Good afternoon. And thank you all for joining us. As you can see from the materials we released this morning, we reported strong adjusted results for the third quarter, ahead of the estimate provided on our last conference call. COVID-19 related demand impacts have moderated from the levels we experienced earlier this year... Let's turn now to an update on plant Vogel Units 3 and 4. Now we continue to utilize an aggressive site work plan for Unit 4 as a tool to provide margin to its regulatory approved in-service date of November 2022 with a current targeted in-service date of June 2022. From a cost perspective, Georgia Power share of the total project capital cost forecast is unchanged at $8.5 billion... We expect that all Unit 3 ITAAC and ICNs will be submitted and reviewed in a timely fashion to support Unit 3 fuel load.

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Drew EvansCFO

Thanks, Tom, and good afternoon, everyone. I hope you all are well. As Tom mentioned, we had a very strong quarter. Third quarter adjusted EPS was $1.02 per share... Despite these headwinds, we have substantially mitigated both weather and COVID-19 impacts throughout 2020, allowing us to exceed our estimates on an adjusted basis in each of the first three quarters.

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Tom FanningCEO

Thanks Drew. Adding to your comments and reinforcing the notion that Southern is the industry leader in research and development... will require an influx of advanced technology. So it's essential that we leverage collaboration to find and advance those next generation and transformational solutions. In closing, earlier today Georgia Power announced that Paul Bowers plans to retire concurrent with Unit 3 fuel load, expected in April 2021 after a remarkable 42 year career with Southern Company... So, we've already made some progress. In the days ahead, I know that we will continue our excellent track record of restoring service quickly and providing not only electricity, but hope to the communities we serve.

Operator

Absolutely. Our first question comes from the line of Julien Dumoulin-Smith with Bank of America. Please go ahead, sir.

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Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Hey, good afternoon. This is Richie here for Julien. How are you doing?

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Tom FanningCEO

Hey, Richie. Glad to have you as well.

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Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

All right. Thanks. I was just curious if you can provide a little bit of color comparing the timeline for the hot functional testing... but I'm just curious if you can provide a little context on the differences there?

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Yeah, well, honestly, I think the 77 days I think appeared in a magazine article... So, let me just finish it with the folks that were there in China are on site here, and they have been constructive and endorse our plan as we put it forward.

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Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Got it. That's very helpful. Appreciate the clarifying remarks there. And then just maybe turning over to Unit 4, I know you guys have indicated here that targeting June 2020, but in VCN 23, it looks like it's just slightly slipping behind the November schedule in terms of percentage complete per month.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Yeah, thanks Richie and in fact, it's really not off track, it's by plan. If you recall, when we went back to the onset of the COVID virus at the site...

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Drew EvansCFO

Sort of, an odd concept and you probably shouldn't use the idea of reduced complexity when you're referring to a nuclear site. But I think it is completely fair to say that, as we move through Unit 3 construction, and move the principal focus to Unit 4, that will absolutely see improvements in -- in productivity over time.

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Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Got it. That's very helpful. And then just one more if I can slip it in. I guess, in terms of the operational data points for Unit 3 between now hot functional testing, I know, there's some subcontractor work left to be done, but anything that we should be focusing on here in the next couple of months?

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Tom FanningCEO

Yeah. I think there's kind of three things that I'm very mindful of right now. In terms of actual construction, I feel pretty good about that... It's a whole lot of myths that are involved in making sure we can get the hot functional test effectively. Those are the three things, like it's the same again, the paper, electrical and subcontractor performance.

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Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

All right. Perfect. Thanks very much.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

You bet. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you for your question. Continuing on. Our next question comes from the line of Shar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners. Please go ahead.

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Tom FanningCEO

Hello, Shar.

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Shar PourrezaAnalyst

Good morning. How are you guys doing?

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Fantastic. How are you?

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Drew EvansCFO

You sound like you're recovering fully. So that's good.

SP
Shar PourrezaAnalyst

Yeah.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Absolutely.

SP
Shar PourrezaAnalyst

Just a couple of quick questions here. So, you know, the cost contingency in this schedule cost margin came down to 18% from 20%... So just maybe, for us trying to assess if you're kind of on track or not over the next several months as we're trying to monitor the contingencies?

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Yeah, I mean, look I think we'll get there in terms of everything we know about cost right now...

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Drew EvansCFO

Yeah. There is the – that's a kind of schedule breaking, right?...

SP
Shar PourrezaAnalyst

Got it. Perfect. Thank you for that. Just maybe just shifting from Vogel per second, just looking at the backdrop, obviously, you've narrowed your forecasts of load impact and the impact on revenues for the year, just maybe, how are you sort of thinking about the recovery into 2021 across the territory?

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Tom FanningCEO

Yeah. So look, I guess in COVID here, we gave the estimate of 2.5% to 5% load reductions, I'm guessing now, revenue reduction... So that's kind of my expectation. Drew?

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Drew EvansCFO

Yeah. The only nuance, I'd say is, we came out of the recovery a little bit – or came out of the pandemic from its depths a little bit faster than we anticipated... to revenue.

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Tom FanningCEO

Yeah. And – let me just repeat that and a year over year all down, all the segments... I just misspoke on the call and said that chemicals was flat, chemicals was the only one down.

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Shar PourrezaAnalyst

Got it.

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Tom FanningCEO

The rest of the answer was okay.

SP
Shar PourrezaAnalyst

Got it. Thank you. Just one last one for me, if I may, just shift to annoy and just thinking about Nicor. Obviously, the policy down there is a bit of a disaster.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Yeah. So certainly supportive of anything that the governor makes as a priority within Illinois.

SP
Shar PourrezaAnalyst

Got it. Terrific. Thanks, guys. Congrats.

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Tom FanningCEO

Thank you. Appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you for your question. Our next question comes from the line of Michael Weinstein with Credit Suisse. Please go ahead.

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Tom FanningCEO

Hello, Mike. We're glad to have you.

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Michael WeinsteinAnalyst

Hi, guys. Hey, when do you think you'll be ready to quantify that higher expected earnings growth rate that you mentioned, after Vogel's in service?

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Oh, listen, I think a lot of this is baked in. Let's just kind of -- we're going to get you great detail as we historically do in our end of year earnings call... our earnings per share growth rate goes way up.

MW
Michael WeinsteinAnalyst

Great. And thinking ahead, after the post election environment... and are you still willing to consider additional new nuclear construction?

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Hey, Michael, not under my way. I want to finish up on a CapEx comment too on the last conversation, we just have it... And so my sense is the United States will continue.

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Drew EvansCFO

One last thing I just wanted to say on the future of CapEx, in the future financial plan... leverage whatever means necessary.

MW
Michael WeinsteinAnalyst

Yeah. That's kind of what I was asking... I'll leave it there. I'll see to further questions. Okay. Thank you.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

I think your answer to that question though, is relatively straightforward... we also have said that we'll do a very large continent of environmental remediation.

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Drew EvansCFO

And I want to assure everybody on the call, when we come up with growth rates... And so therefore there's probably outside.

Operator

Thank you. Continuing on, our next question comes from the line of Angie Storozynski with Seaport Global. Please proceed.

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Drew EvansCFO

Hello Angie, how are you?

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Angie StorozynskiAnalyst

Doing great. Thank you. Well, I have two questions. One is, so post 42 years at Georgia Power... So how, how should we think about it, the ongoing support for the project, given the elections and the management change at Georgia Power?

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Tom FanningCEO

You bet. And thanks. And that's a natural question. So thank you for asking. Look, Paul turns 65 next year... He will do a terrific job.

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Angie StorozynskiAnalyst

Okay, thank you. My second question is, so we've always told us that there's going to be some a couple of weeks of additional work between the end of cold hydro testing and the beginning of hot functional testing.

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Tom FanningCEO

Oh, Angie, no, nothing at all. The cold hydro testing went fabulous... It gives us more time to finish with the electrical.

UA
Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Got it. And now completely changing topics... Should we think about it that once Vogel three is online, that's when you're ready to entertain any types of future growth through acquisitions?

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Tom FanningCEO

Well, now, that's a loaded question... After that, we'll have lots of opportunities to consider things. But I would argue even after Vogel, we will still maintain that discipline.

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Angie StorozynskiAnalyst

Perfect. Thank you.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Thank you. Go ahead.

Operator

And thank you. Continuing on, our next question comes from line of Sophie Karp with KeyBanc. Please go ahead.

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Tom FanningCEO

Hello, Sophie. How are you doing?

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Sophie KarpAnalyst

Hi. Good afternoon. All right. No complaints? Hope you guys are doing well also. Congrats on a strong quarter.

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Tom FanningCEO

Thank you.

SK
Sophie KarpAnalyst

Well, a lot has been discussed already. But maybe if you could give us a little bit more kind of color on... So what are the factors that can push it sooner or later within that range that we should maybe follow, or think about?

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Yeah. Sophie if it was me, I'm just giving you my judgment on this call right now. So I laid out three risk areas... I would really focus on that one right now.

SK
Sophie KarpAnalyst

Right. So it sounds like a cold hydro test went well... could be – could potentially delay hot functional test.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Sophie, no, it went great. In fact, when we finally ran the test... is the same again, the paper, electrical and subcontractor performance. So, let me just finish it with the folks that were there in China... endorsing the plan as we put it forward.

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Unidentified AnalystAnalyst

Got it. All right. Super helpful comments. Thank you so much appreciate it.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Always good talking to you. Thank you for being on with us.

Operator

Thank you. Continuing on our next question comes from the line of Jeremy Tonet with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

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Tom FanningCEO

Hi, Jeremy.

JT
Jeremy TonetAnalyst

Hey, thanks for having me on here.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

You bet.

JT
Jeremy TonetAnalyst

Just want to just want to think about, you know, kind of look into the future a little bit for the period after Vogtle’s completion here.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Yeah, so let's start with the sort of the long term plan... It's going to be a great place to do business. And I think also, when you consider the role of batteries... we are going to need some material science advances, in order to make batteries a comprehensive solution.

JT
Jeremy TonetAnalyst

Got it. Yeah, that's very helpful. Thanks for that.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

You bet.

JT
Jeremy TonetAnalyst

And then, kind of shifting gears here. Is there anything we should be thinking about in regards to potential changes on the Georgia commission as elections approach here?

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Well, it's almost impossible to answer. I mean, look, this company has been designed over the years to thrive in any kind of administration at a federal level... whatever happens, we'll be fine.

JT
Jeremy TonetAnalyst

Got it. That makes sense. Thank you very much.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

You bet. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Andrew Weisel with Scotiabank. Please proceed with your question.

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Andrew WeiselAnalyst

Thank you. Quick one here in terms of coal generation, the pie chart you show is really impactful and of course, consistent with the strategy toward decarbonisation.

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Tom FanningCEO

Yeah. The premise of your question is 100% correct... The whole rep that is one plant.

AW
Andrew WeiselAnalyst

Okay. Great. That's helpful. And then…

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Did I get it? You bet.

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Charles FishmanAnalyst

Thank you. You've answered all my questions on Vogel, COVID-19. I wonder if I could just ask one sort of long range strategic question.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Yeah. Hey, Charles. I know I catch them great for this... That is, miniaturizing make, move and sell.

CF
Charles FishmanAnalyst

Okay.

PP
Paul PattersonAnalyst

Good to hear. So all I have left here is, I just wanted to follow-up you on PowerSecure.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Yeah, we've actually put a bright young guy in charge of the confluence of Southern Power, PowerSecure and the part of Southern Company Gas it's called Sequent. Now, here is the issue... Whatever those areas of weakness for some companies are areas of strength for our offering.

PP
Paul PattersonAnalyst

Okay. So there isn’t any significant drag or anything that we should be thinking.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

No.

PP
Paul PattersonAnalyst

All right. Well, power grids are picking up. So, I mean, there's a lot – I mean, microgrids are picking up. So it sounds like there could be opportunity.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

Hey. Hey, Paul, I guess you’re right. They just had I think their best quarter ever.

PP
Paul PattersonAnalyst

Good to hear. Thanks so much.

TF
Tom FanningCEO

You bet. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. And that will conclude today's question and answer session, Mr. Fanning, I will turn it to you once again for your closing remarks.

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Tom FanningCEO

Hey, thanks everybody. What a great quarter, such exciting times to have the progress at Vogel 3 and 4. And, just for everybody's benefit, I asked Paul Bowers to join us... Any thanks everybody on the call. Great stuff. We’ll talk to you soon.

PB
Paul BowersCFO

Well, thanks Tom. And I'll put context and the decision associated with retirement... So with that, and as we have disclosed that concurrent to us loading fuel in unit 3, we'll make the leadership change at Georgia Power, with a great leader under Chris Womack to take the reins as we move forward.

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Tom FanningCEO

Okay. Hey, thanks, Paul. You've been a champion your whole career here. He’s been a great friend and an awesome leader for the Power. Any thanks everybody on the call. Great stuff. We’ll talk to you soon.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen this concludes The Southern Company third quarter 2020 earnings call. You may now disconnect. Thank you once again. Have a great day.

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