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Eversource Energy (ES) — Q4 2023 Earnings Call Transcript

Apr 5, 202616 speakers8,675 words96 segments

Original transcript

Operator

Hello and welcome to the Eversource Energy Q4 and Full Year 2023 Earnings Call. My name is Elliot and I'll be coordinating your call today. I'd now like to hand over to Bob Becker, Director for Investor Relations. The floor is yours. Please go ahead.

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Bob BeckerDirector of Investor Relations

Good morning and thank you for joining us. I am Bob Becker, Eversource Energy's Director for Investor Relations. During this call, we'll be referencing slides we posted yesterday on our website. And as you can see on Slide 1, some of the statements made during this investor call may be forward-looking. These statements are based on management's current expectations and are subject to risk and uncertainty which may cause the actual results to differ materially from forecasts and projections. We undertake no obligation to update or revise any of these statements. Additional information about the various factors that may cause actual results to differ and our explanation of non-GAAP measures and how they reconcile to GAAP results is contained within our news release, the slides we posted last night and in our most recent 10-K and 10-Q. Speaking today will be Joe Nolan, our Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer; and John Moreira, our Executive Vice President and CFO. Also joining us today is Jay Buth, our Vice President and Controller. Now, I will turn the call over to Joe.

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

Thank you, Bob, and thank you all for joining us on the call this morning and for your interest in Eversource. Let me begin with the pathway for a full exit of our offshore wind business on Slide 4. When we started down this path in 2016, we were very excited for the opportunity to bring much-needed renewable energy to our region. The high supply prices in the Northeast are not good for anyone, particularly our customers. Until we can reduce the region's reliance on gas, electric generation price volatility will continue to cause difficulties for our customers. State mandates for our offshore wind procurement provided a strong impetus for our engagement, along with the recognition that offshore wind is one of the few renewable resources that can be produced in quantity to reduce reliance on natural gas and dampen the volatility of our region's electric prices. Unfortunately, our offshore wind investment experienced difficulties as early-stage projects. These difficulties were largely a result of the pandemic, supply chain disruptions, rising interest rates and uncertainty around available resources for installation vessels and fabrication of turbine foundations. We are not alone, as several other offshore wind developers have also experienced similar challenges. These challenges, coupled with the lack of pricing flexibility inherent in contracts approved by state regulators, result in projected investment returns substantially below our required thresholds. At the same time, our core business is well positioned to deliver solid operational and financial results as we move forward in supporting the region's transition to a cleaner energy environment. This led us to seek out a path to refocus our investment portfolio on our utility business, with its strong opportunities for growth. For this reason, I am pleased about our announcement that we have reached an agreement to sell our existing 50% interest in the South Fork and Revolution Wind projects to Global Infrastructure Partners, our leading infrastructure investor that will generate approximately $1.1 billion of cash proceeds. With the pending sale to GIP, our announcement last month, regarding the conditional sale of Sunrise Wind to Orsted and the sale of the offshore wind lease area that closed last year, I'm pleased to say that we have the pathway in place to finalize a full exit from the offshore wind business. For the year, we have taken a non-cash cumulative impairment charge of approximately $1.95 billion, after tax. John will discuss the impairment in more detail. However, I will say that the impairment reflects assumptions that our Board views as appropriate, given the uncertainty around the ultimate outcome of the Sunrise Wind rebid process. As John will discuss, the terms of the agreement with GIP are assumed and reflected in the impairment charge in our long-term financing plan. By taking this impairment charge, we are accounting for our full exit from Offshore Wind. We are pleased to be in the final stage of this long journey and we feel confident that we are turning over the management of the wind business to capable and committed parties. We will remain involved in managing onshore construction for all three projects and through our tax equity investment in the South Fork. I'll close my comments on offshore wind, with a brief update on the status of the project construction activity. As the first utility scale, offshore wind farm in commercial operation in the U.S., South Fork Wind has been supplying power to Long Island since late November 2023, when the first turbine was installed. We are now in the process of installing the 12th and final turbine. We expect all turbines to be producing power by March. We continue to advance on both onshore and offshore construction of Revolution Wind, after reaching a positive final investment decision in October of last year. Work on the site of the new onshore substation in Rhode Island has been underway since late last year. Seabed preparation for the installation of wind turbine foundations is currently in process. Lastly, on Sunrise Wind, we continue to get closer to the BOEM record of decision while we await the results of the latest submission into New York's RFP floor. We made this submission jointly with Orsted on January 25. Next, let me discuss the water distribution announcement we made last evening, shown on Slide 5. Our water business is a valuable, well-performing and well-managed company. Although the Water business is earnings accretive to Eversource, we see the potential sale of our water business as an opportunity to reduce equity needs and improve our regulatory diversity. With its current $1.3 billion rate base and a national reputation for operational excellence, the water business has a strong potential to be of substantial value to another owner as part of a larger water business, our strategic infrastructure platform. As a result, we plan to launch a process for evaluating market interest in a transaction for the water business with the objective of delivering value to both customers and investors. If successful, the proceeds from the sale will provide a source of cash without going to the equity market, thereby enhancing our balance sheet. Moving forward, Eversource will focus on the delivery of clean, safe, reliable energy to our customers and preparing for the clean energy future that our states, our customers and our investors expect. Now I'll turn to our excellent financial and operating performance results on Slide 6. Starting with the financials; we delivered another strong year with recurring earnings of $4.34 per share in 2023, representing growth of nearly 6% over 2022. Our Board has approved a dividend increase for the first quarter of 2024 of $0.715 per share which amounts to $2.86 per share on an annualized basis; this reflects an increase of 6% over 2023's dividend level. Moving to operations; I am extremely proud of our team once again for delivering reliable electric, natural gas and water service to our 4.4 million customers. As you can see, our electric reliability ranks in the top decile among our peers. We're focused on providing reliable electric service to our customers, who on average have gone nearly 2 years without an outage. In 2023, Eversource again outperformed its target injury rate. Our teams are keeping a strong focus on safe work practices not just during major storm events, when conditions are tough, but every day on every job. On natural gas safety, once again, the team delivered another strong year, replacing 145 miles of natural gas pipeline and delivering on-time emergency response times of 98% within 45 minutes, a performance that well exceeds our regulatory requirements. I want to congratulate the Eversource team on these accomplishments. I am very proud of the skill and commitment of the entire team in the way that our employees are aligned in our shared vision of providing the highest level of safety, innovation, service quality and financial discipline for the benefit of our customers. Turning to Slide 7. At Eversource, we know our customers expect us to not only deliver energy today but also to be prepared for the future. To that end, we are actively engaging with our states to enable the Clean Energy future that our customers and our communities envision. At the end of January, we submitted our Electric Sector Modernization Plan, or ESMP, to the Massachusetts Department of Public Utilities. After extensive input from the Grid Modernization Advisory Council and stakeholders across the commonwealth, the ESMP is the roadmap for building out the electric infrastructure and technology platforms to enable a reliable transition to a Clean Energy future in alignment with the state's Clean Energy plan. The filing specifically addresses the coming 5 and 10 years with a vision toward an 85% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions by 2050. Eversource has taken a leadership role in this endeavor and is viewed as a trusted partner at the table in planning the Clean Energy future for Massachusetts. We expect that the Department of Public Utilities to issue a final decision on our plan in August of 2024, addressing approximately $600 million of proposed incremental investment, among other components. In Connecticut, we are continuing to work on our comprehensive outreach plan with participation from across the company. We are leveraging our internal talent to educate Connecticut's stakeholders on the importance of infrastructure investment to our customers in the broader Connecticut economy, as well as the affordability programs that we offer to customers. This approach has proven to be productive, in terms of raising awareness of the value of utility investment. And on the point that Eversource is ready, willing and able to help Connecticut meet its Clean Energy goals. Lastly, in New Hampshire, we are gearing up for a number of regulatory initiatives, including a potential PBR proposal, and evaluating ways to help the state advance Clean Energy projects, such as large-scale solar development. We're excited about the role Eversource will continue to play to enable a Clean Energy future that's affordable and equitable for all customers. We'll continue to engage with all stakeholders to move this massive complex effort forward. Turning to Slide 8. As you may know, Eversource is an industry and market leader in environmental, social and governance. We continue that focus in 2023. We expanded the charter of the Board's governance, environmental and social responsibility committee to extend this oversight to include climate-related matters. The full Board receives regular reports on our climate-related goals, key industry updates and policy activity through the Eversource climate scorecard. We continue to make progress on reaching our carbon neutrality goal by 2030 and we submitted our application for a new science-based target in December. I'm pleased to report that due to our continued leadership on ESG, last week, Eversource was named one of America's Most JUST Companies, as announced by JUST Capital and CNBC, for the fifth consecutive year. We have a very exciting future here at Eversource, focused on what we do best. I will now turn the call over to John Moreira.

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Thank you, Joe. And good morning, everyone. This morning, I will cover our 2023 financial results, the offshore wind impairment, the 2023 regulatory update, an update of our 5-year investment forecast for our regulated businesses. And I'll wrap up with our 2024 recurring earnings guidance, long-term financing plan and 5-year earnings and dividend growth guidance. I'll start with 2023 results on Slide 10. Our GAAP results for the year were a loss of $1.26 per share, compared with GAAP earnings of $4.05 per share in 2022. In the fourth quarter, results were a loss of $3.68 per share, compared with GAAP earnings of $0.92 per share in the fourth quarter of 2022. Results for the full year 2023 include an after-tax impairment charge of $5.58 per share related to our offshore wind investment and a $0.02 per share after-tax charge related to our nonrecurring costs. Results for 2022 include a $0.04 per share charge, primarily related to transition costs associated with a completed integration of EGMA. Excluding these charges and the offshore wind impairment, our non-GAAP recurring earnings were $4.34 per share in 2023 as compared to $4.09 per share in 2022. Breaking down our 2023 full year non-GAAP recurring earnings of $4.34 into segments, electric transmission earned $1.84 per share for 2023, as compared with earnings of $1.72 per share in 2022. Improved results were driven by continued investments in our transmission system and lower income tax expense. Our electric distribution earnings were $1.74 per share in 2023, as compared with earnings of $1.71 per share in 2022. A base distribution increase at NSTAR Electric was partially offset by higher interest expense, property taxes and depreciation. Our natural gas distribution segment earned $0.64 per share in 2023, as compared to $0.67 per share in 2022. Increases in depreciation and interest expense, higher effective tax rate, and the impact of certain reconciliation charges exceeded the revenues we received from capital trackers and base rate increases at NSTAR Gas and EGMA that became effective November 1, 2022. Our water distribution segment earned $0.09 per share in 2023, compared with $0.11 per share in 2022. Lower results were driven by higher depreciation, O&M expense and interest expense. The results reflect the impact of a very disappointing decision in Connecticut from PURA for the Aquarion water rate case which is under appeal. Eversource parent and other companies' earnings were $0.03 per share in 2023, as compared with a loss of $0.12 per share in 2022. The improved results reflect a lower effective tax rate and the gain on our planned liquidation of a renewable energy fund, partially offset by higher interest expense and a contribution to the Eversource Charitable Foundation. Let me now turn to offshore wind, starting with the highlights of our sale of South Fork and Revolution Wind to GIP. With South Fork Wind expected to be in service before the transaction closes, our construction contingency is primarily related to Revolution. The terms of the transaction include a capital cost sharing agreement. Under this agreement, capital expenditure overruns incurred for the 50% interest in the project, up to approximately $240 million will be shared equally between Eversource and GIP. Above this threshold, 50% of any project cost overruns would be borne by Eversource. If the final project costs come in under the current construction forecast, Eversource will receive a payment for this difference. The terms and pricing of this agreement with GIP are assumed in the impairment charge and in our long-term financing plan. Let me review the offshore wind impairment, as shown on Slide 11. In 2023, we recorded impairment charges on our offshore wind investment of approximately $2.17 billion pretax or $1.95 billion after tax. As you can see on this slide, the impairment charge was driven by a lower-than-expected sales value of approximately $400 million for the three projects, after completing our strategic review in the second quarter of last year. As a result of adverse developments in the fourth quarter, including the further reduction in the expected sales prices driven by higher project costs and the October 2023 denial of the OREC pricing petition for Sunrise Wind, we realized an additional impairment charge in the fourth quarter of approximately $1.77 billion. The Sunrise Wind project drove about $1.22 billion of the impairment charge, in large part due to the OREC repricing denial, which led to lower assumed revenues and ultimately, an evaluation of the potential abandonment cost of Sunrise if it is unsuccessful in the New York RFP for solicitation. As a reminder, to participate in the process to submit a rebid in the solicitation, NYSERDA required any existing projects to terminate their current OREC agreements. This potential loss of both a contract revenue stream and ultimate project viability and any related termination costs was factored into our impairment analysis. Therefore, we assume that if Sunrise is not successful in the rebid, this would result in no sales proceeds and no value attributable to the ITC adder. These items, coupled with estimated cancellation costs for the project, net of any salvage value, drove the additional impairment charge. Although we have factored this downside set of assumptions and probabilities into our impairment analysis, if Sunrise is ultimately successful in the RFP, Eversource would then sell its ownership interest in the project to Orsted under the terms of our recently announced agreement. With the completion of that sale, our interest in Sunrise would be terminated. We would not be subject to any further construction contingencies or project cancellation costs. If we are successful selling Sunrise to Orsted, it would provide a full exit for the Offshore Wind business. Turning to Slide 12. I'll walk you through the carrying value of our offshore wind investment, as of December 31, 2023. The carrying value that I will discuss reflects the impact of our fourth quarter impairment charge by project. As you can see, the value of both Sunrise and Revolution were impacted by the fourth quarter impairment. The value of South Fork was not impacted. The fourth quarter impairment charge assumes a set of scenarios regarding potential construction contingencies for Revolution Wind. The charge also assumes that Sunrise Wind would be abandoned. We are very disappointed by the financial impact recognized on these early-stage Offshore Wind projects. However, we are comfortable with the impairment charge assumptions. We have reflected these assumptions in our long-term financial plan which I'll cover in a minute. As we move forward and finalize the sale of these projects, including the result of the recent New York RFP 4, the ultimate carrying value of our offshore wind investment could change accordingly. On the regulatory front, we had another busy year. Our key 2023 regulatory items are highlighted on Slide 13. Starting with Massachusetts, we completed proceedings on our 2018 to 2021 storm cost recovery request, of approximately $136 million. I'm pleased to report that the Massachusetts DPU conducted a very thorough review and we received approval to recover 100% of our request. This approval highlights the importance of our storm response and acknowledges the tremendous effort from my Eversource colleagues and our contractors to restore customers as quickly and as safely as possible. Also in Massachusetts, we received approval of our first annual revenue adjustment under NSTAR Electric's PBR plan. This adjustment included an increase of a capital adjustment factor or CAPA as we call it. Turning to New Hampshire. We received the final order for proven $47 million of storm cost recovery, for weather events occurring in 2020 and 2021. Again, we were granted nearly 100% of our request. We expect to file a general rate review in New Hampshire later this year to recover the cost of investments that we have made over the last four years to significantly improve reliability for customers in New Hampshire. In total, we are now recovering approximately $400 million in rates, over the next five years for storm costs in Massachusetts and New Hampshire. In Connecticut, at the end of December, we filed our request for a prudency review of approximately $635 million of storm costs relating to weather events that occurred from 2018 through 2021. The Connecticut filing contains more than 10,000 pages of support for costs incurred for these significant weather events. We look forward to working through the prudency review with PURA in 2024. Lastly, in our Aquarion's appeal of its March 2023 rate decision, oral arguments were held on January 11, and we expect the court decision over the coming months. Turning to our regulated utility capital plan. Slide 14 reflects our 5-year utility infrastructure investments, by segment updated through 2028. As a reminder, this plan reflects projects that we have a good line of sight on from a regulatory approval perspective. Over this 5-year period, we expect to invest approximately $23.1 billion in our regulated electric, natural gas and water businesses, to continue providing customers with safe and reliable service to meet ongoing load growth and to achieve progress on Clean Energy objectives. Starting with transmission. Our plan includes nearly $6 billion of transmission infrastructure investments over the next five years. These investments include replacement of aging infrastructure to harden the system and increase resiliency during extreme weather events. Innovative substation projects undertaken for reliability and electrification purposes and interconnection projects, adding Clean Energy resources to the grid. Our Transmission capital plan includes a launch, scale, innovative project to build a substation in Cambridge, Massachusetts, completely underground. We are working closely with the city on this project, which includes nearly $1 billion of investments to interconnect four existing transmission lines. This project will increase capacity to enable electrification and improve the reliability of electric service for customers. Turning to Electric Distribution. Our updated capital forecast now reflects nearly $10 billion of planned utility infrastructure investments, with a continued focus on system resiliency and our top-tier reliability for Electric Service. Our planned electric distribution investments include over $0.5 billion of our AMI program in Massachusetts. The AMI program will allow customers to save money through heightened control over their own energy consumption and to experience higher service levels through faster outage restoration and other service functions. On the natural gas side, our 5-year plan reflects nearly $5.5 billion of investments and is centered around reliability and safety. The plan is highlighted by our bare steel and cast iron pipe replacement programs in Massachusetts and Connecticut. Across our natural gas system, we'll continue to thoughtfully engage with our states to ensure our investments enable equitable transition to a Clean Energy future. Turning to the water segment. Our 5-year investments are forecasted to be over $1 billion, supporting investments in water treatment facilities and water main replacements to improve water quality. Rounding out our Eversource capital plan, our investments in technology and facilities are forecasted at $1.1 billion. Moving to Slide 15. Our updated capital plan reflects a $1.6 billion increase in utility infrastructure investments from 2024 through 2027 versus the prior plan. This increase reflects greater visibility on the work needed to serve our customers over the next four years. An important consideration in relation to our 5-year capital plan is what has not been included. On the right-hand side of the slide, we show some potential infrastructure investments not currently included in our forecast, which would be additive to the plan. These opportunities total up to $2 billion in the forecast period with Connecticut AMI at the top of the list at nearly $700 million. The resulting impact from our updated capital plan is shown on Slide 16. The customer-focused core business investments included in our capital plan would result in 7.7% growth in rate base from 2022 through 2028. Next, I will turn to our 2024 earnings guidance on Slide 17. We are projecting a non-GAAP recurring earnings per share range of $4.50 to $4.67 per share for 2024. Positive drivers this year include transmission investments for system resiliency and increased electric demand, distribution base rate increases in Massachusetts and New Hampshire, continued focus on controlling O&M expenses and a lower effective tax rate. In 2024, our planned distribution rate increases include the first rate base roll-in for EGMA which will adjust rates to recover six years of capital investments. This rate adjustment will take effect in November of this year. These positive drivers are expected to be partially offset by higher expenses related to increased capital investments and share dilution. Turning to our long-term financing plan. I'll start with our cash flow assumptions regarding offshore wind, as shown on Slide 18. As I said earlier, our wind impairment reflects a set of assumptions that we have also embedded in our long-term financing plan. Let me walk you through what is assumed in our financing plan. First, we assume cash inflows from the announced sale of South Fork and Rev Wind of $1.1 billion. These proceeds include the value of the 10% ITC adder for Revolution Wind of approximately $170 million. Also assumed in our financing plan is the realization of our tax equity investment in South Fork Wind, which we expect will bring in around $500 million of cash over the next 24 months. The last item is related to our sale of Sunrise Wind to Orsted which is not assumed in our long-term financing plan. If Sunrise is successful in the New York RFP 4, that would be a positive to our plan. I'll now cover a number of drivers that are expected to enhance our FFO to debt ratio from 2023 to 2025, as you can see on Slide 19. These drivers include the Offshore Wind proceeds that I just discussed, planned rate increases at our utilities, recovery of storm cost deferrals, scheduled equity issuances and proceeds from a potential sale of our water business. In terms of the equity assumed in our plan over the next several years, we expect to issue up to $1.3 billion of equity through our existing ATM program. We will also continue to be opportunistic with our alternatives. As Joe mentioned, we are undertaking a review of our water distribution business. Proceeds from a successful sale are assumed in our long-term financing plan, reducing the level of equity that would otherwise be needed. As you can appreciate, we cannot provide any additional details beyond what we've disclosed. We will keep you updated on any decisions from this evaluation and any changes in our financial guidance. Closing now on Slide 20, our robust 5-year capital plan and long-term financing plan drive our 5% to 7% EPS growth rate through 2028. To be clear, the 5% to 7% is based off of our 2023 recurring EPS of $4.34. Before we get to your questions, I'll turn the call over to Joe for his closing remarks.

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

Thank you, John. As I previously said, I'm very excited as I look ahead to the future of Eversource. This amazing team that delivers every day is on the brink of a critical energy transformation, that will benefit our customers, our communities and our environment. The need for utility infrastructure investment has never been greater. In fact, in a draft study released last year, ISO New England projected a need for up to $15 billion of transmission investment to meet the region's 2050 Clean Energy objectives. As we look ahead, we see a tremendous need for a collaborative approach to leverage our utility infrastructure development and superior operating skills in Massachusetts, New Hampshire and Connecticut. On that note, I want to thank you for your interest in Eversource and I look forward to seeing you soon. I'll now turn the call back over to Bob and we look forward to answering your questions.

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Bob BeckerDirector of Investor Relations

Thanks, Joe. I'll turn the call back to the operator to begin Q&A.

Operator

First question comes from Shar Pourreza with Guggenheim Partners.

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Shar PourrezaAnalyst

Joe, let me ask you a question on the up to $1.3 billion equity, I guess without seeing sort of market interest with the inquiring sale and details around Sunrise, where you could get more proceeds than you embed and planned, depending on how things shake out, right which you just alluded to in your prepared, what's kind of giving you confidence around the $1.3 billion, can you beat it? And how are you thinking about the timing and the means of raising that equity?

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

Sure. Thank you for the question, Shar. I want to start by emphasizing that we view Aquarion as a highly valuable and attractive asset. The company is well managed and recognized in the water distribution sector, along with its leadership. Based on this assessment, we've estimated potential returns from a sale. Just to clarify, the $1.3 billion represents the potential equity we could achieve over the next several years. We have some flexibility with this amount, and it could vary depending on the actual proceeds we realize.

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Shar PourrezaAnalyst

Sorry but the timing and the means of that equity, any sense there?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes, we've been guiding the market for several years with a $1 billion need, and now we're increasing that to $1.3 billion. I believe this will happen over the next few years. We are planning to be in a position to access the equity markets in the coming months. That's why we specifically noted that we will address our equity needs through our ATM program, which provides us the necessary flexibility.

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Shar PourrezaAnalyst

Great. And then just lastly on this one is just on revolution cost sharing. John, can you just maybe walk us through the pathways for overages on the project? I mean what can go wrong? Any way to sensitize some of the puts and takes either on the construction side, i.e., how expensive does it get putting the crew on standby on the O&M availability side?

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

Yes, I'm really proud of the work being done on South Fork. It's been a valuable opportunity for us to prepare for this installation. We're working on a project that involves 12 turbines, with 11 currently in the lease area, while the 12th is on its way to the site. Since November, we've been supplying power to Long Island, which is a significant achievement for us. As the first upscale offshore wind farm in the U.S., this project has allowed us to gain insights into what this entails. In the fall, we evaluated the costs and charges related to constructing South Fork, especially as we update the costs for the Revolution project. We've included our vessel strategy, which involves using a feeder barge and a European vessel, and it's been progressing well. These aspects have contributed to the rising costs of offshore wind projects across the board, not just for us. The shortage of American vessels poses a challenge for the industry as a whole. However, I'm confident in our execution. We expect the South Fork project to be completed in March. The lessons learned and challenges we've faced in the offshore wind sector with South Fork have been applied to the Revolution project. We are aware of the costs involved and feel comfortable with the projected exposure at $240 million, considering everything we've accounted for. I believe we can manage this without incurring overruns.

Operator

We now turn to Steve Fleishman with Wolfe Research.

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Steve FleishmanAnalyst

So just to close, maybe the loop on the equity issuance. I think John, I heard you say after using the ATM, also opportunistic with our alternatives. Could you just clarify what you mean by that?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes, we appreciate the ATM program for the reasons I've mentioned; it provides us with significant opportunities and allows us to capitalize on the market. However, if we come across a particularly favorable value, we are open to pursuing other options, whether that's a block or other types of deals. At this moment, I want the greatest flexibility to act and maximize the value we can achieve.

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Steve FleishmanAnalyst

Okay. All right. That's very clear. On the second question, just on the FFO to debt slide. Do you have a starting point for 2023 actual first?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes, in 2023 we have faced challenges with our operating cash flow, mainly due to the turnaround and the methodology required by PURA. For instance, our COMP franchise has seen a significant under-recovery this year, amounting to nearly $1 billion. However, we anticipate a reversal of this trend in 2024 and 2025, and we will be able to recover that cash. At this moment, we project our results to be in the low double digits for 2023 as we finalize our figures. Looking ahead, I am confident we will achieve a 14% to 15% ratio of FFO to debt, as mentioned previously.

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Steve FleishmanAnalyst

Yes. And then just a few of the pieces that you highlight here on the improvement. So just maybe the South Fork part, the tax equity investment, how much like FFO to debt percentage points is that? And is that just all hit '24, '25, and then it goes away? And then I guess you fill it in with more operating cash?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Exactly. So the utilization of that, Steve, will happen based on our taxable income. So a lot can happen, storm costs being one of them that we take the deduction as we incur those storm costs and that can lower the utilization of that ITC. So right now, we've modeled it over the next 24 months, but if we have further deductions from an operating standpoint, that would slip into '26.

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Steve FleishmanAnalyst

Okay. But for now, just take that $500 million and spread it over the two years, if we want to calculate that?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Correct; that's a reasonable approach.

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Steve FleishmanAnalyst

Okay. And then just one other question on that slide. The storm cost recovery, is that just related to Massachusetts and New Hampshire? Or are you assuming you're able to get storm cost recovery in Connecticut somehow or is that after this period?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes. Connecticut is not included in our current calculations. As mentioned in our formal remarks, we have filed for the prudency review, which will take some time. Therefore, our focus is primarily on Massachusetts and New Hampshire. However, once the storm cost recovery from Connecticut begins, it will provide us with additional cash flow for the years following 2025.

Operator

Our next question comes from Nicholas Campanella with Barclays.

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Nicholas CampanellaAnalyst

So good to see you reaffirming the 5% to 7%, I guess, just you previously used to say high end of that range. I just wanted to kind of clarify if you have any message on where you kind of stand in the 5% to 7% at this point? And then how do we kind of think about Aquarion sales kind of impact to that 5% to 7%? Is it baked in? Does it put you somewhere else in the range depending on those outcomes there?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Sure, Nick. So let me start with the latter question. The Aquarion potential sale is baked into that guidance, as I mentioned. So we are assuming that. And then the 5% to 7%, as I want to reiterate, it's a growth aspiration of 5% to 7%. We're not giving any indication of where on that spectrum we will ultimately land. Right now, we're comfortable with that; a lot can happen that can move us up. But until we have that more transparency and more clarity, we're sticking with 5% to 7% growth rate. We'll continue to update you all as things progress on our long-term guidance growth.

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Nicholas CampanellaAnalyst

Okay. I appreciate that. And then I guess just sticking with Aquarion, obviously, you're trying to find ways to mitigate equity issuance in the 5-year plan. Just what's inspiring your confidence to kind of come back to do another sales process at this point? Do you feel confident it's not going to be as drawn out as the last one? And then just how do we kind of think about the timeline and then also the agency's willingness to kind of see through another asset sale, just given you're still on negative outlook?

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

Yes. Well, let me add a couple of things. I'm not going to give you a timeline on the asset yield. But I will tell you that it's a very different animal, Aquarion. I mean we're talking about wind partnership with another party. We only own 50%. We talked about the fact that it's very challenging and you don't own the entire asset. We own all of Aquarion. It makes things a lot less complex. This asset is very, very attractive. We've been in this business now for several years. It's a great business. It's the seventh largest water company in the country. But the fact of the matter is, there are 50,000 water companies in the country. So to try to assemble water companies, it takes time, it takes effort. But something of this magnitude certainly is attractive to many, many folks. So I won't give you a timeline, but I will tell you that it's not nearly as complex; it's not even in the same category of the wind assets. So I feel very, very good about it.

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

And I would just add, Joe, is spot on from an execution, this is a totally different animal. And then from your latter question on how the agencies, as long as we have a pathway, this kind of mitigates any further equity needs that we may have. So it's still cash coming in the door which is very appealing and supportive of our credit metrics.

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Our next question comes from David Arcaro with Morgan Stanley.

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David ArcaroAnalyst

Could you just touch on cost savings initiatives? I think you mentioned that you're expecting lower O&M in 2024. I guess how much lower? What are the levers you're pulling there? And what are you thinking kind of going forward off of a 2024 base there, too?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes. I would say that in 2023, we did experience some higher O&M levels that we don't think will reoccur in 2024. So that's one of the drivers, David. And then we are still in the technology deployment. Right now, we are going through a new CIS system as part of the Massachusetts AMI deployment. And we think that there are savings, there are efficiencies that we can harvest as well. We already have one of our operator in Western Massachusetts went live a couple of weeks ago. So we think that there's savings there as well that we can harvest. So those are the major drivers. And as well as other efficiencies throughout the organization.

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David ArcaroAnalyst

Okay, great. I just wanted to clarify the outcome of the New York 4 auction. How might that affect the outlook? Are you indicating that the proceeds for Orsted are not currently included in the equity need guidance? Could that amount be reduced based on a successful outcome in that auction?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

That is absolutely correct. Any proceeds from a future sale to Orsted have not been included in our financing plan. This would impact our equity requirements. For that reason, among others, we approached the valuation this way. So you are thinking about it correctly.

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David ArcaroAnalyst

Yes, that makes sense. I just wanted to clarify quickly. Does the $1.3 billion include the DRIP? Also, what do you expect that to be on an annual basis going forward?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

The $1.3 billion does not include the DRIP. So that level is pretty consistent about $100 million to $120 million per year, and that will continue.

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We now turn to Durgesh Chopra with Evercore ISI.

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Durgesh ChopraAnalyst

Can I go back to Aquarion? Regarding the 5% to 7% you mentioned related to the Aquarion sale, you have included the CapEx in your 5-year plan for Aquarion. I’m wondering how you plan to address the earnings gap for Aquarion. I understand it’s a small amount. Will it primarily come from debt reduction from the sale proceeds or could the CapEx be redirected to cover Aquarion's earnings?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

I would say it's a combination of both. Yes, we did leave the CapEx, their CapEx in our forecast, but it's clear, it's delineated. You can see how much that relates to. And the fact that in my formal remarks, I highlighted and we have it in the slide on the deck that if you look at the forecast period, forecast over forecast, we're up $1.6 billion. And in my formal remarks, I also indicated that we should be mindful of what has not been included in our 5-year forecast. And that amount could be up to $1 billion to $2 billion, once again within this forecast period. So we feel very, very optimistic that we are able not only to replace the earnings but also mitigate any of the dilution.

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Durgesh ChopraAnalyst

Understood. That's very clear. Can you remind us of your earned ROEs in Connecticut as of 2023? What are you projecting for the 5% to 7% EPS growth target going forward?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes. I mean, obviously, they have dipped a little. We've been out of Connecticut for quite some time. We've had the settlement agreement. I would say that they're probably in the CL&P is around hovering around 8% and Yankee in the 7% range.

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Durgesh ChopraAnalyst

Got you. And then just what are you modeling? Like are you modeling ROE improvement, ROE staying the same, perhaps going lower as you think about the 5% to 7% growth rate?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Well, I mean, we've determined that we're going to stay out for at least another year or longer. So we model in the appropriate assumptions as we normally do with any rate proceeding in our 5-year forecast.

Operator

We now turn to Angie Storozynski with Seaport.

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Agnieszka StorozynskiAnalyst

So first, regarding the assumptions behind the equity needs, if I consider the $1.3 billion and what I expect Aquarion could contribute, it appears we are approaching around $3 billion in equity, which seems higher than our previous expectations. I'm curious about the credit assumptions you have factored in. Do you anticipate that this amount, whatever the final figure is, will enable you to maintain your current credit ratings, particularly with S&P?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes. So Angie, we're very mindful of what the downgrade thresholds are. And our financing plan, we feel confident that it will meet those thresholds, particularly at S&P which has moved us up to a 14% threshold, as you know.

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Agnieszka StorozynskiAnalyst

Yes. And then secondly, you have this port challenge for Aquarion's rate case. And I'm just wondering if, one, there's an outcome we need for that sale process to be successful; and two, if you approach the regulator in Connecticut about this potential sale?

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

Yes, this is Joe. The court case was heard, and we believe it went very well. We expect a decision in the next few months, and we anticipate that it will go back to PURA. It will not impact our ability to transact, and we are very confident in the outcome of the case.

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Angie, I would just add that, quite honestly, as Joe mentioned, we should see that court decision in the next couple of weeks. That's our expectation. And that would actually be behind us before we execute on the transaction.

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Agnieszka StorozynskiAnalyst

Okay. And no discussions with PURA around that potential sale or putting the asset on the block?

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

Yes. No, we've had communication with the governor. I did talk to the governor and I let him know of this transaction. As you know, it's a quasi-judicial Board, the PURA and there are certain things they can and can't talk about. So we're trying to be very mindful of that.

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Agnieszka StorozynskiAnalyst

And then lastly, the dividend growth profile, is it basically mimicking the earnings growth or EPS growth?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Angie, you're correct. As I mentioned, our growth rate in 2023 compared to 2022 was around 6%. Additionally, the Board recently approved another 6% increase in our dividend on an annualized basis. We have a strong history of increasing our dividend in line with our earnings.

Operator

Our next question comes from Anthony Crowdell with Mizuho.

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Anthony CrowdellAnalyst

Just I guess two quick ones. One to follow up from Steve's question. I think you were talking about maybe some ITCs in your FFO to debt metrics. Any chance you could tell us what amount of ITCs you booked in '23 earnings and what your forecast is in '24 earnings?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes, Anthony, this is John. So the ITC that Steve was alluding to relates to the South Fork equity investment that we just completed last year. And the size of that bread box is about $500 million. We have not recognized any of those ITCs. And I would view those ITCs as being cash driven and not earnings driven.

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Anthony CrowdellAnalyst

Great. And then just lastly, on the 8-K you filed this morning, gave some more details on the transaction. I believe in it, you guys have guaranteed an IRR to the buyer of roughly 13%. If you use your best estimate today of what you think the project would cost and your best estimate forecasting everything, where do you think the IRR stands today?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes. With the cost pressures that we've had, I want to make sure I understand your question.

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Anthony CrowdellAnalyst

I’m curious about the 13% IRR. We were initially forecasting a lower IRR for the project based on our assumptions. Are we assuming from the beginning that there will be a payment to the buyer to achieve the 13% IRR?

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

It has already been included in the transaction. That's part of the impairment that would enable them to achieve the return they expect. So that has already been considered and accounted for.

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes, that's right.

Operator

We now turn to Paul Zimbardo with Bank of America.

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Paul ZimbardoAnalyst

To clarify, what's the forecast for capital investment into offshore wind into 2024 and specifically kind of before the close of the transaction?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes, Paul, we really haven't said that. There's time sensitivities as to when funding obligations transfer, not only to both GIP but also to Orsted as well. But I can tell you that it's not a significant level. And all of those assumptions have been baked into our financing plan.

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

And whatever we put in comes back to us. It's not as if we're going to be out of any money.

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Paul ZimbardoAnalyst

Okay. And then on the lower effective tax rate in 2024, could you quantify what that benefit is, kind of what you had in 2023 from lower effective tax rate? And how much of the improvement is in 2024?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes. I mean, where we landed in 2023, I would say, high teens and where we project to be in 2024 is also in the high teens, I would say, 18% to 20%, is the effective tax rate. So some of the benefits that we were able to recognize, we see those recurring in 2024.

Operator

Our next question comes from Ryan Levine with Citi.

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Ryan LevineAnalyst

On the cost sharing or earnout clawback-like structure, what is the timeline for receiving cash payments if costs are lower than targets? Additionally, are there any cash outflows, and when do you anticipate those payments being made?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Sure. I mean it would be all resolved at COD. At COD, our contingent liability is resolved. We plan to have the Revolution project in service in the fall of 2025. So that should be the timing you should be thinking about.

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Ryan LevineAnalyst

Okay. And then given the uncertainty of the contingent payments, would you look to wait to time your equity issuance once you have resolution on COD?

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

Well, the equity issuance is a multi-year program. So it wouldn't be anything; it would be right, it's still the same window of time that we're talking about. John?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes. That has been incorporated into our financing plan regarding the timing for when it will reach commercial operation date. We feel confident. In his formal remarks and some of the responses to questions, Joe expressed that we are satisfied with our current construction forecast for Revolution, which has become the basis for our projections.

Operator

And then on the water sale, to the extent you can respond, did the process already start? Or is it being initiated with the announcement last night?

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

No, the process has not started. Last night, we kicked it off and we'll get to work on it as soon as this call is over.

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Ryan LevineAnalyst

Great. And then last question for me. We've seen other utilities slow the dividend growth to be less than EPS growth. Is the management or Board considering a change in dividend policy on a go-forward basis as the capital needs and equity needs evolve?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

No, we don't. I just reiterated our expectations for long-term earnings, with EPS growth of 5% to 7%, and we expect to grow our dividend in line with the earnings growth.

Operator

Our next question comes from Travis Miller with Morningstar.

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Travis MillerAnalyst

On the Revolution, what kind of involvement are you going to continue to have on the operational construction side? And I'm thinking in part to make sure that the costs stay in line with your estimate. Will you be involved in the project or more third party?

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

Yes. No, no, great question. So we're actively involved in the land-based portion of that construction. I've been down in Rhode Island. I've been with Governor McKee; we broke ground on the substation, the conduit work that runs from the point of entry from the ocean to the substation. We will play a very, very active role. And I think that having a seat at the table is important for all the reasons that you stated. So we will continue to play that role until such time as that project is in commercial operation.

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Travis MillerAnalyst

Okay, perfect. Looking back over the years strategically, one of the initial ideas behind your non-utility investments was to decrease exposure to Connecticut. However, it seems like you have increased that exposure again recently. What has changed in Connecticut over the years that leads you to believe the operating and investment environment has improved there?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

I would say the Aquarion transaction is primarily based on our need to raise equity, and it represents a potentially beneficial opportunity that we are aiming to pursue. This is the main reason we are focusing on a transaction for Aquarion.

Operator

We now turn to Paul Patterson with Glenrock Associates. John Moreira, Executive Vice President and CFO, stated that the Aquarion transaction is driven by the necessity to raise equity and that it represents a potential accretive opportunity that they are looking to pursue. This is the main reason they are engaging in the Aquarion transaction.

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Paul PattersonAnalyst

Just really quickly to make sure I understood the answer to Anthony Crowdell question. There is no earnings impact associated with 2023 and 2024 with offshore wind on a non-GAAP basis and adjusted basis, is that correct?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

No.

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Paul PattersonAnalyst

Okay, great. And then, moving to the PBR case. I noticed that in December, you guys and also United Illuminating, asked for the case to be withdrawn and then reinitiated as a new type of case. And without getting into the details because they're very complicated. But how do you see that case proceeding, I guess, at this point? I know that the commission earlier this month said no to that proposal. But obviously, there are some concerns that you guys have about it that you voiced in your filings. Any thought process we should have about what the outlook is there?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Yes. Paul, a couple of things there. Number one, quite honestly, we were a bit disappointed that docket or those dockets, there is actually three of them got delayed or pushed out a bit. So I think it's still far too early for us to speculate because I think there are proceedings that we wanted to take place. And now some of those will likely happen. So we can't speculate, as to what the outcome would be at this point. I think there's a lot more work and a lot more discussion with PURA that will have to take place.

Operator

We now turn to Jeremy Tonet with JPMorgan.

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Aidan KellyAnalyst

This is actually Aidan Kelly on for Jeremy. Just one quick question on our end. What was the parent interest expense drag in '23 versus '22? And could you just talk about like the offsets behind that?

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Well, I would say the interest obviously is higher and we said that has an impact. But I would focus your attention more on to the financing plan that we just disseminated and the EPS growth rate and for '24 and the longer-term growth rate.

Operator

This concludes our Q&A. I'll now hand back to Bob Becker for final remarks.

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Bob BeckerDirector of Investor Relations

Thanks, Elliot and thank you, everybody, for joining us today. If you have any follow-up questions, please reach out to Investor Relations.

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John MoreiraExecutive Vice President and CFO

Thank you, everyone.

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Joseph NolanChairman, President and CEO

Thank you, everybody.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, today's call has now concluded. We'd like to thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines.

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